From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] random: convert to using iters, for Al Viro
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 10:06:06 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcef12c5-35b5-f6a8-24c8-d190f87c3cff@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yoe7ykNXjUerhywY@zx2c4.com>
On 5/20/22 10:03 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>> Then I'd say there are only two options:
>>
>> - Add a helper that provides splice for something that only has
>> read/write set.
>
> That'd be fine with me, but wouldn't it involve bringing back set_fs(),
> because of the copy_to_user() in there?
I haven't even looked into whether it's currently feasible or not, just
mentioning it as a potential option. But the better one is definetely
the next one...
>> - Just accept that we're 3% slower reading from /dev/urandom for now,
>> and maybe 1-2% for small reads. Can't really imagine this being a huge
>> issue, how many high throughput /dev/urandom read situations exist in
>> the real world?
>
> An option three might be that eventually the VFS overhead is worked out
> and read_iter() reaches parity. One can hope, I guess.
And that will certainly happen, especially as we have other paths that
don't really have the choice, they have to use the iterator versions.
And if we can get a bit closer, then that also opens the door more
generic conversions so we can kill ->read/->write for almost all cases
(except those weirdo ones that Al pointed out).
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-20 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-20 9:44 Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] random: convert to using fops->read_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 13:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 14:36 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 14:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:12 ` Al Viro
2022-05-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] random: convert to using fops->write_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] random: wire up fops->splice_{read,write}_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 12:16 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] random: convert to using iters, for Al Viro Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:34 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:44 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:55 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:58 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:03 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:06 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-05-20 15:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:51 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:58 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:00 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:47 ` Al Viro
2022-05-20 15:53 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:15 ` Al Viro
2022-05-20 16:24 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:41 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-24 4:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
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