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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: Jo Van Bulck <jo.vanbulck@cs.kuleuven.be>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<luto@kernel.org>, <peterz@infradead.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: <x86@kernel.org>, <bp@alien8.de>, <tglx@linutronix.de>, <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] x86/pti: Fix kernel warnings for pti= and nopti cmdline options.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:13:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c22d7613-fb2e-11ec-9544-a39ffc7fd955@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <405927c5-91bf-144d-a3d7-b82f5527f3c9@cs.kuleuven.be>

On 8/11/2023 11:23 AM, Jo Van Bulck wrote:

> On 08.08.23 17:13, Sohil Mehta wrote:> Can mitigations be off through 
> some other mechanisms such as kernel config?
> I validated this both with and without the proposed patch.
> 

Great, thanks for checking that. The existing print is accurate then. If
it is printed "disabled on command line.", then PTI has been disabled
due to a command line option.

>> Maybe split the mitigations_off check into a separate if and it's own
>> unique print message?
>> Also, with the separated check you can avoid the unnecessary re-setting
>> of pti_mode when pti_mode == PTI_FORCE_OFF is true.
> 
> Thanks, makes sense. I'll make sure to do this in the next patch revision.
> 

Based on above, even when you split the if check only a single print
would be enough, right?

>> In the rare case that both pti= and nopti is set the existing code seems
>> to ignore the nopti option. Would the new implementation do the same?
> 
> Good point. In my understanding, passing such conflicting options is 
> undefined as per the specification [2] and I'm not sure if backwards 
> compatibility is a requirement?
> 

> That being said, I can see the argument that in this case of 
> security-sensitive functionality, it may be desirable to maintain 
> identical behavior for identical kernel parameter combinations and 
> sequences. 

I don't believe that is a requirement either. Sometimes kernel command
lines can get very long and people make mistakes. I just thought it is
neat that the current code is defaulting that way and we should probably
keep the same behavior since it makes sense.

> 
> --> I can update the patch to ensure backwards-compatible behavior in 
> both cases for the next patch revision.
> 

I agree, in both cases pti= overriding the other option (nopti or
mitigations=off) sounds reasonable to me.

Sohil


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-08 19:56 Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-09  0:13 ` Sohil Mehta
2023-08-11 18:23   ` Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-11 19:13     ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2023-08-11 21:20       ` Jo Van Bulck

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