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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Shawn Landden <shawn@git.icu>,
	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	Luc Van Oostenryck <luc.vanoostenryck@gmail.com>,
	Chandler Carruth <chandlerc@google.com>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf/x86/intel: Mark expected switch fall-throughs
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:25:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c32b1f6381d0fcdc2a054c778e233b95dc728068.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdnzrMOCo4RRsfcR=K5ELWU8obgMqtOGZnx_avLrArjpRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2019-06-25 at 15:57 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> consider most other GNU C extensions.  How do I
> test whether they exist in my compiler or not?  Is it everything or
> nothing (do they all have to exist?).

Until such time as the linux source code supports alternate
mechanisms for existing gcc extension uses, I think yes.

> In those cases you either end
> up shelling out to something like autoconf (which is what I consider
> the current infra around CONFIG_CC_HAS_ASM_GOTO), or code filled with
> tons of version checks for specific compilers which are brittle.

Or just one...

> Of the two cases, now consider what happens when my compiler that
> previously did not support a particular feature now does.  In the
> first case, the guards were compiler agnostic, and I *don't have to
> change the source* to make use of the feature in the new compiler.  In
> the second case, I *need to modify the source* to update the version
> checks to be correct.
[]
> Back to your point about adding a minimal version of Clang to the
> kernel; I don't really want to do this.  For non-x86 architectures,
> people are happily compiling their kernels with versions of clang as
> old as clang-4.

Perhaps:

#if defined(CONFIG_X86_32) || defined(CONFIG_X86_64)
#define CLANG_MINIMUM_VERSION 90000
#elif defined(CONFIG_ARM) || defined(CONFIG_ARM64)
#define CLANG_MINIMUM_VERSION 40000
#else
etc...
#endif

#if CLANG_VERSION < CLANG_MINIMUM_VERSION
etc...
#endif

> and if it continues to work for them; I'm happy.  And
> if it doesn't, and they raise an alarm, we're happy to take a look.
> Old LTS distros may have ancient builds of clang, so maybe some kind
> of hint would be nice, but I'd also like to support older versions
> where we can and I think choosing clang-9 for x86's sake is too
> x86-centric.  A version check on CONFIG_JUMP_LABEL is maybe more
> appropriate, so it cannot be selected if you're using clang && your
> version of clang is not clang-9 or greater?

The now non-portable nature of .config files might be
improved.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-25 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-24 16:19 Gustavo A. R. Silva
2019-06-24 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-24 19:45   ` Joe Perches
2019-06-24 20:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-24 20:53       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2019-06-24 20:57         ` Joe Perches
2019-06-25  7:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-24 22:28         ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-06-25  7:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-25 12:47             ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-06-25 18:15               ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-25 22:29                 ` Joe Perches
2019-06-25 22:57                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-25 23:25                     ` Joe Perches [this message]
2019-06-26  8:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 22:14                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-27  7:12                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 13:31                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 18:44                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-29  7:10                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-25 17:12             ` Kees Cook
2019-06-25 18:05               ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-25 19:53                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-25 20:27                   ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-25 20:37                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-25 21:47                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26  5:10                       ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-26 15:18                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 19:00                           ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-26 19:46                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 20:03                               ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-26  9:24                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26  9:55                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 22:23                           ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-27  7:35                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 10:43                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 22:15                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-27  7:16                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 16:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 22:33                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-06-26 23:11                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-27  7:11                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-25 23:46                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-06-26  5:14                       ` Nathan Chancellor
2019-06-25 20:09                 ` Kees Cook
2019-06-26  8:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-25  7:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-25 16:27 ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Gustavo A. R. Silva
2019-07-25 17:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-07-25 17:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-25 23:18       ` Joe Perches
2019-07-25 23:28         ` Kees Cook

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