mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:16:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c48ad8ae-aea5-43fa-882f-dccb90dde9a4@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YeG8ydoJNWWkGrTb@ls3530>


[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2068 bytes --]

Hi

Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller:
> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care.
> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>

First of all, thank you for stepping up to maintain the fbdev codebase. 
It really needs someone actively looking after it.

And now comes the BUT.

I want to second everything said by Danial and Javier. In addition to 
purely organizational topics (trees, PRs, etc), there are a number of 
inherit problems with fbdev.

  * It's 90s technology. Neither does it fit today's userspace, not 
hardware. If you have more than just the most trivial of graphical 
output fbdev isn't for you.

  * There's no new development in fbdev and there are no new drivers. 
Everyone works on DRM, which is better in most regards. The consequence 
is that userspace is slowly loosing the ability to use fbdev.

  * A few use-cases for efifb remain, but distributions are actively 
moving away from fbdev. I know that at least openSUSE, Fedora and Alpine 
do this.

I'd like to hear what your plans are for fbdev?

Best regards
Thomas

> 
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -7583,11 +7583,12 @@ W:	http://floatingpoint.sourceforge.net/emulator/index.html
>   F:	arch/x86/math-emu/
> 
>   FRAMEBUFFER LAYER
> -L:	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> +M:	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
>   L:	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
> -S:	Orphan
> +L:	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> +S:	Maintained
>   Q:	http://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-fbdev/list/
> -T:	git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
> +T:	git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/linux-fbdev.git
>   F:	Documentation/fb/
>   F:	drivers/video/
>   F:	include/linux/fb.h

-- 
Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
(HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev

[-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 840 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-17 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 18:11 Helge Deller
2022-01-14 18:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17  9:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:19   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-17 10:49   ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 10:57     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:15   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:57     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 13:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 13:51         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 14:10           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 14:47             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:03               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 20:17                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  6:29                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:10                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:44                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:23                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18 14:39                         ` Simon Ser
2022-01-20 12:50                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-21  8:55                           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 18:38                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50                               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 19:05                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18  8:20                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:16                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 10:13                         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 10:44                           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 12:48                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 15:05               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:05                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 14:53             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18  6:11         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:09           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:00     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:42       ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:56         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:58         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:21           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 16:38             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 17:19               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 19:45             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 21:55               ` Ilia Mirkin
2022-01-18 11:14                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:14             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 21:40           ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 21:44             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  8:38               ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-18  8:41                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:41                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:11                     ` Simon Ser
2022-01-18  8:54                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:33                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-18  9:45                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:18                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 11:42                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  8:41       ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18  9:12         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 11:16 ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2022-01-17 11:33   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:13     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 18:47   ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18  8:33     ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-18  9:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 11:22         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:07           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-19  8:39         ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-20  9:06         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 11:32           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:13             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 12:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:46                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 19:37                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 11:51           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18  8:58     ` Michel Dänzer
2022-01-18 10:05       ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18 14:06     ` Thomas Zimmermann

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=c48ad8ae-aea5-43fa-882f-dccb90dde9a4@suse.de \
    --to=tzimmermann@suse.de \
    --cc=deller@gmx.de \
    --cc=dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org \
    --cc=linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®