From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:16:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c48ad8ae-aea5-43fa-882f-dccb90dde9a4@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YeG8ydoJNWWkGrTb@ls3530>
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Hi
Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller:
> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care.
> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer.
>
> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
First of all, thank you for stepping up to maintain the fbdev codebase.
It really needs someone actively looking after it.
And now comes the BUT.
I want to second everything said by Danial and Javier. In addition to
purely organizational topics (trees, PRs, etc), there are a number of
inherit problems with fbdev.
* It's 90s technology. Neither does it fit today's userspace, not
hardware. If you have more than just the most trivial of graphical
output fbdev isn't for you.
* There's no new development in fbdev and there are no new drivers.
Everyone works on DRM, which is better in most regards. The consequence
is that userspace is slowly loosing the ability to use fbdev.
* A few use-cases for efifb remain, but distributions are actively
moving away from fbdev. I know that at least openSUSE, Fedora and Alpine
do this.
I'd like to hear what your plans are for fbdev?
Best regards
Thomas
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -7583,11 +7583,12 @@ W: http://floatingpoint.sourceforge.net/emulator/index.html
> F: arch/x86/math-emu/
>
> FRAMEBUFFER LAYER
> -L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> +M: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
> L: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
> -S: Orphan
> +L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> +S: Maintained
> Q: http://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-fbdev/list/
> -T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
> +T: git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/linux-fbdev.git
> F: Documentation/fb/
> F: drivers/video/
> F: include/linux/fb.h
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Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
(HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-17 11:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-14 18:11 Helge Deller
2022-01-14 18:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 9:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 10:19 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-17 10:49 ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 10:57 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:15 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 13:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 13:51 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 14:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 14:47 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:03 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 20:17 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 6:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 8:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:23 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18 14:39 ` Simon Ser
2022-01-20 12:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-21 8:55 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 18:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 19:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18 8:20 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 9:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 10:13 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 10:44 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 12:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-17 15:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:05 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 14:53 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-18 6:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 8:09 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:00 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:42 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 15:56 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 15:58 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 16:21 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 16:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-17 17:19 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 19:45 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 21:55 ` Ilia Mirkin
2022-01-18 11:14 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 14:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 21:40 ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-17 21:44 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 8:38 ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-18 8:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:11 ` Simon Ser
2022-01-18 8:54 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 9:33 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-18 9:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 11:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 11:42 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 8:41 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-18 9:12 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 11:16 ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2022-01-17 11:33 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-17 12:13 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-17 18:47 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18 8:33 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-18 9:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 11:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-18 12:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-19 8:39 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-01-20 9:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 11:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-20 12:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 12:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 18:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 19:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 11:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-18 8:58 ` Michel Dänzer
2022-01-18 10:05 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18 14:06 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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