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From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: "Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 08:51:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4c3e6e9-8f4e-494b-b21f-7051ca81fad6@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA3PR11MB9136C5455D0EA04FC3624824926F2@IA3PR11MB9136.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



On 28.10.26 г. 7:42 ч., Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO
>> support check
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26.10.26 г. 3:26 ч., Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>>> On 10/14/2026 2:11 PM, Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
>>>>> This is used to allow TD guest TEE-IO Device Control and Management
>>>>> (TDCM) module to
>>>>> manage the device. The TDCM leaf functions are defined in the following
>>>>> table
>>>>>
>>>>> Is TDCM module implemented via the NRX facility ?  The TDX Connect spec
>>>>> never mentions the TDCM module. A bit more details are required in
>> order
>>>>> to better understand why you've implemented this the way you have.
>>>> "TDCM module" is GHCI terminology. In this series, the guest-side
>>>> implementation is in the TDX TSM driver; it is not an NRX module.
>>>
>>> I think the TDX guest TSM driver is just the implementation of the "TDCM
>> module"
>>> called in GHCI, right?
>>
>> I think we are entering a dangerous bikeshedding territory here. But
>> IIUC TDCM seems to be something which the TD calls, because it sends the
>> TDCM function ids to the host, so the TDCM should really be implemented
>> by the host. But I think such construct just adds more confusion, TDCM
>> is just a subset of the GHCI, so nothing really more special.
> 
> GHCI spec says:
> 
> "This is used to allow TD guest TEE-IO Device Control and Management (TDCM) module to
> manage the device."
> 
> So I think "TDCM module" term in GHCI spec is talking about guest side - the TDX TSM driver.
> 
> Since "TDCM module" term is confusing for reader, so I plan to drop it
> in next version, I plan to use "TDCM request" to denote the guest-side
> operations and "TDCM implementation" to denote the host-side logic.
> let me know if this distinction makes sense to you all, or if you have
> any other suggestions.

Yep, makes sense to me.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-28  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-24  4:10 [RFC PATCH 00/15] PCI/TSM: coco/tdx-guest: Implement TDX-Connect PCIe TDISP (phase2) Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] x86/tdx: Export tdg_vm_rd() for tdx-guest module Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-30 22:13   ` Peter Fang
2026-10-01 12:38     ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-08  6:45       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:30         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:34   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  6:19     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14  6:27       ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  7:22         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  0:33   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  3:28     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-27  5:49       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  6:08         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29  2:15           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29  7:34             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.RD module call " Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-25  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  6:27     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:42       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  2:28         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  0:51   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  6:22     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support devsec TSM for secure devices Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-15 13:42   ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-16  6:42     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  1:12   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  7:20     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:31   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  6:11     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  1:26       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26  7:13         ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-28  5:42           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28  6:51             ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2026-10-14 12:52   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-15  6:24     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  2:06   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  8:32     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29  2:27       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 12:10   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  3:06     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14  6:32       ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14  7:33         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-17 18:38   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-19  2:16     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  2:32       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  8:58         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29  2:38           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29  7:42             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29  3:26           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26  2:38   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 10:14     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] PCI/TSM: Track Device Interface Report MMIO range index Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  2:45   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27  9:11     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.MMIO.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 23:41   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-25  0:02     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  6:01       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:47         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  5:49     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:44       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  2:16         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virt: tdx-guest: Capture the TDI report during device lock Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  5:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28  3:23     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virt: tdx-guest: Set up and accept private MMIO ranges Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  5:22   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28  3:32     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29  2:44       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29  9:56     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.START module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support Trust Device Interface (TDI) activation Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  7:19   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28  6:44     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28 12:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29  2:24         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] x86/tdx: Add __tdcall_saved() helper Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  7:35   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.DMAR.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  7:39   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28  5:57     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] virt: tdx-guest: Accept default DMAR entry during PCI driver attach Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26  7:49   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26 12:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28  9:39     ` Xu Yilun

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