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From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)" <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	"Oscar Salvador" <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@linux.dev>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload related to hugetlb and memory_hotplug
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 11:25:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5bca009-9c57-2818-8bf3-88160f4d30db@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b43d8f7-3477-a2c2-028e-e31d40ac932c@redhat.com>

On 2022/5/12 20:59, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 12.05.22 13:13, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>> On 2022/5/12 15:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once the problematic DIMM would actually get unplugged, the memory block devices
>>>>>>> would get removed as well. So when hotplugging a new DIMM in the same
>>>>>>> location, we could online that memory again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about PG_hwpoison flags?  struct pages are also freed and reallocated
>>>>>> in the actual DIMM replacement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Once memory is offline, the memmap is stale and is no longer
>>>>> trustworthy. It gets reinitialize during memory onlining -- so any
>>>>> previous PG_hwpoison is overridden at least there. In some setups, we
>>>>> even poison the whole memmap via page_init_poison() during memory offlining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that, we should be freeing the memmap in all relevant cases
>>>>> when removing memory. I remember there are a couple of corner cases, but
>>>>> we don't really have to care about that.
>>>>
>>>> OK, so there seems no need to manipulate struct pages for hwpoison in
>>>> all relevant cases.
>>>
>>> Right. When offlining a memory block, all we have to do is remember if
>>> we stumbled over a hwpoisoned page and rememebr that inside the memory
>>> block. Rejecting to online is then easy.
>>
>> BTW: How should we deal with the below race window:
>>
>> CPU A			CPU B				CPU C
>> accessing page while hold page refcnt
>> 			memory_failure happened on page
>> 							offline_pages
>> 							  page can be offlined due to page refcnt
>> 							  is ignored when PG_hwpoison is set
>> can still access page struct...
>>
>> Any in use page (with page refcnt incremented) might be offlined while its content, e.g. flags, private ..., can
>> still be accessed if the above race happened. Is this possible? Or am I miss something? Any suggestion to fix it?
>> I can't figure out a way yet. :(
> 
> I assume you mean that test_pages_isolated() essentially only checks for
> PageHWPoison() and doesn't care about the refcount?

Yes, page refcount is ignored when PG_HWPoison is set.

> 
> That part is very dodgy and it's part of my motivation to question that
> whole handling in the first place.
> 
> 
> In do_migrate_range(), there is a comment:
> 
> "
>  HWPoison pages have elevated reference counts so the migration would
>  fail on them. It also doesn't make any sense to migrate them in the
>  first place. Still try to unmap such a page in case it is still mapped
>  (e.g. current hwpoison implementation doesn't unmap KSM pages but keep
>  the unmap as the catch all safety net).
> "
> 
> My assumption would be: if there are any unexpected references on a
> hwpoison page, we must fail offlining. Ripping out the page might be
> more harmful then just leaving it in place and failing offlining for the
> time being.

I tend to agree with this. :)

> 
> 
> 
> I am no export on PageHWPoison(). Which guarantees do we have regarding
> the page count?
> 
> If we succeed in unmapping the page, there shouldn't be any references
> from the page tables. We might still have GUP references to such pages,
> and it would be fair enough to fail offlining. I remember we try
> removing the page from the pagecache etc. to free up these references.
> So which additional references do we have that the comment in offlining
> code talks about? A single additional one from hwpoison code?

IIRC, memory_failure will hold one extra page refcount. This refcount will be released
in unpoison_memory.

> 
> Once we figure that out, we might tweak test_pages_isolated() to also
> consider the page count and not rip out random pages that are still
> referenced in the system.
> 

But there are some corner cases where PageHWPoison is set but page refcnt is not increased.
So we couldn't detect the page refcount reliably now. :(

Thanks!

      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-16  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27  4:28 Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] mm, hwpoison, hugetlb: introduce SUBPAGE_INDEX_HWPOISON to save raw error page Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  7:11   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-27 13:03     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  3:14       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-12 22:31   ` Jane Chu
2022-05-12 22:49     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] mm,hwpoison,hugetlb,memory_hotplug: hotremove memory section with hwpoisoned hugepage Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-29  8:49   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09  7:55     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-09  8:57       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] mm, hwpoison: add parameter unpoison to get_hwpoison_huge_page() Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] mm, memory_hotplug: fix inconsistent num_poisoned_pages on memory hotremove Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-28  3:20   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-28  4:05     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  7:16       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09 13:34         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27 10:48 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload related to hugetlb and memory_hotplug David Hildenbrand
2022-04-27 12:20   ` Oscar Salvador
2022-04-27 12:20   ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  8:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-09  7:29       ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-09  9:04         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09  9:58           ` Oscar Salvador
2022-05-09 10:53             ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-11 15:11               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-11 16:10                 ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-11 16:22                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-12  3:04                     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-12  6:35                     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-12  7:28                       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-12 11:13                         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-12 12:59                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-16  3:25                             ` Miaohe Lin [this message]

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