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From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)" <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@linux.dev>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload related to hugetlb and memory_hotplug
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 11:04:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d59ea7fc-c509-4166-5e01-0af0a332536f@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6986a8dd-7211-fb4d-1d66-5b203cad1aab@redhat.com>

On 2022/5/12 0:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 11.05.22 18:10, HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也) wrote:
>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 05:11:17PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 09.05.22 12:53, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>>>> On 2022/5/9 17:58, Oscar Salvador wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 05:04:54PM +0800, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>> So that leaves us with either
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Fail offlining -> no need to care about reonlining
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe fail offlining will be a better alternative as we can get rid of many races
>>>>>> between memory failure and memory offline? But no strong opinion. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> If taking care of those races is not an herculean effort, I'd go with
>>>>> allowing offlining + disallow re-onlining.
>>>>> Mainly because memory RAS stuff.
>>>>
>>>> This dose make sense to me. Thanks. We can try to solve those races if
>>>> offlining + disallow re-onlining is applied. :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, to the re-onlining thing, we'll have to come up with a way to check
>>>>> whether a section contains hwpoisoned pages, so we do not have to go
>>>>> and check every single page, as that will be really suboptimal.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we need a stable and cheap way to do that.
>>>
>>> My simplistic approach would be a simple flag/indicator in the memory block devices
>>> that indicates that any page in the memory block was hwpoisoned. It's easy to
>>> check that during memory onlining and fail it.
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/base/memory.c b/drivers/base/memory.c
>>> index 084d67fd55cc..3d0ef812e901 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/base/memory.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/base/memory.c
>>> @@ -183,6 +183,9 @@ static int memory_block_online(struct memory_block *mem)
>>>         struct zone *zone;
>>>         int ret;
>>>  
>>> +       if (mem->hwpoisoned)
>>> +               return -EHWPOISON;
>>> +
>>>         zone = zone_for_pfn_range(mem->online_type, mem->nid, mem->group,
>>>                                   start_pfn, nr_pages);
>>>  
>>
>> Thanks for the idea, a simple flag could work if we don't have to consider
>> unpoison.  If we need consider unpoison, we need remember the last hwpoison
>> page in the memory block, so mem->hwpoisoned should be the counter of
>> hwpoison pages.
> 
> Right, but unpoisoning+memory offlining+memory onlining is a yet more
> extreme use case we don't have to bother about I think.
> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once the problematic DIMM would actually get unplugged, the memory block devices
>>> would get removed as well. So when hotplugging a new DIMM in the same
>>> location, we could online that memory again.
>>
>> What about PG_hwpoison flags?  struct pages are also freed and reallocated
>> in the actual DIMM replacement?
> 
> Once memory is offline, the memmap is stale and is no longer
> trustworthy. It gets reinitialize during memory onlining -- so any
> previous PG_hwpoison is overridden at least there. In some setups, we
> even poison the whole memmap via page_init_poison() during memory offlining.
> 

I tend to agree with David. The memmap is unreliable after memory is offline. So preventing memory
re-online until a new DIMM replacement is a good idea.

Thanks!

> Apart from that, we should be freeing the memmap in all relevant cases
> when removing memory. I remember there are a couple of corner cases, but
> we don't really have to care about that.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-27  4:28 Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] mm, hwpoison, hugetlb: introduce SUBPAGE_INDEX_HWPOISON to save raw error page Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  7:11   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-27 13:03     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  3:14       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-12 22:31   ` Jane Chu
2022-05-12 22:49     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] mm,hwpoison,hugetlb,memory_hotplug: hotremove memory section with hwpoisoned hugepage Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-29  8:49   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09  7:55     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-09  8:57       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] mm, hwpoison: add parameter unpoison to get_hwpoison_huge_page() Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27  4:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] mm, memory_hotplug: fix inconsistent num_poisoned_pages on memory hotremove Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-28  3:20   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-28  4:05     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  7:16       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09 13:34         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2022-04-27 10:48 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] mm, hwpoison: improve handling workload related to hugetlb and memory_hotplug David Hildenbrand
2022-04-27 12:20   ` Oscar Salvador
2022-04-27 12:20   ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-04-28  8:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-09  7:29       ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-09  9:04         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-09  9:58           ` Oscar Salvador
2022-05-09 10:53             ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-11 15:11               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-11 16:10                 ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-11 16:22                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-12  3:04                     ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2022-05-12  6:35                     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2022-05-12  7:28                       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-12 11:13                         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-05-12 12:59                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-16  3:25                             ` Miaohe Lin

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