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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRASTRUCTURE (V4L/DVB)" 
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/5] media: v4l2-ctrl: Document V4L2_CID_LOCATION
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:40:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb36e8a0-b941-ff37-e58c-0f9b7f62116a@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190815143423.vaoswb4jvzd2blxp@uno.localdomain>

On 8/15/19 4:34 PM, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 04:14:38PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On 8/15/19 4:10 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>> On 8/15/19 12:43 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>>> Hi Jacopo,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the patch.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:28:12PM +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
>>>>> Add documentation for the V4L2_CID_LOCATION camera control. The newly
>>>>> added read-only control reports the camera device mounting position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  .../media/uapi/v4l/ext-ctrls-camera.rst       | 23 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/media/uapi/v4l/ext-ctrls-camera.rst b/Documentation/media/uapi/v4l/ext-ctrls-camera.rst
>>>>> index 51c1d5c9eb00..fc0a02eee6d4 100644
>>>>> --- a/Documentation/media/uapi/v4l/ext-ctrls-camera.rst
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/media/uapi/v4l/ext-ctrls-camera.rst
>>>>> @@ -510,6 +510,29 @@ enum v4l2_scene_mode -
>>>>>      value down. A value of zero stops the motion if one is in progress
>>>>>      and has no effect otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> +``V4L2_CID_LOCATION (integer)``
>>>>
>>>> Maybe V4L2_CID_CAMERA_SENSOR_LOCATION ? Same for the values below.
>>>
>>> Probably a better name, if a bit long. But we might need other location
>>> controls in the future (e.g. flash location), so CID_LOCATION is just too
>>> generic.
>>
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
>> Note that the location defines themselves can most likely be used with any
>> LOCATION control, so V4L2_LOCATION_FRONT would be fine with any control.
>>
> 
> What do you think instead of the control type? Would a single integer
> control do or an integer menu one would be better? I see merit in both
> proposals actually...

Single integer. It's read-only, so it just reports the location.

It would be different if this was a writable control: then you need to
know which locations are possible to set, and that requires a menu type.

But it doesn't make sense to set the location from software. However, the
location might change as a result of other changes: e.g. if the camera
has motor control of the tilt and the tilt changes from forward facing to
downward facing, then the driver might change the location from FRONT
to DOWN. A convoluted example perhaps, but this is just brainstorming.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> Once this is clarified, I can send a proper v1.
> 
> Thanks
>   j
> 
>> Regards,
>>
>> 	Hans
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> 	Hans
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +    This read-only control describes the camera location by reporting its
>>>>
>>>> Here too I would mention camera sensor instead of just camera (or
>>>> possibly imaging sensor).
>>>>
>>>>> +    mounting position on the device where the camera is installed. This
>>>>> +    control is particularly meaningful for devices which have a well defined
>>>>> +    orientation, such as phones, laptops and portable devices as the camera
>>>>> +    location is expressed as a position relative to the device intended
>>>>> +    usage position. In example, a camera installed on the user-facing side
>>>>> +    of a phone device is said to be installed in the ``V4L2_LOCATION_FRONT``
>>>>> +    position.
>>>>
>>>> The DT bindings could use such an example :-) I would extend this to
>>>> tablets and laptops.
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +
>>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> Do we need three blank lines ?
>>>>
>>>>> +.. flat-table::
>>>>> +    :header-rows:  0
>>>>> +    :stub-columns: 0
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    * - ``V4L2_LOCATION_FRONT``
>>>>> +      - The camera device is located on the front side of the device.
>>>>> +    * - ``V4L2_LOCATION_BACK``
>>>>> +      - The camera device is located on the back side of the device.
>>>>> +
>>>>> +
>>>>> +
>>>>>  .. [#f1]
>>>>>     This control may be changed to a menu control in the future, if more
>>>>>     options are required.
>>>>
>>>
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-15 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 20:28 [RFC 0/5] media: v4l2-ctrls: Add camera 'location' support Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 20:28 ` [RFC 1/5] media: dt-bindings: Document 'location' property Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 22:40   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15  6:56   ` Sakari Ailus
2019-08-15 12:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 12:55     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15 12:58       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-01 17:24     ` Pavel Machek
2019-09-02  8:02       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02  8:11         ` Pavel Machek
2019-08-14 20:28 ` [RFC 2/5] media: v4l2-ctrl: Document V4L2_CID_LOCATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 22:43   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 12:58     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15 14:10     ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 14:14       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 14:34         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15 14:40           ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2019-08-15 15:12             ` Sakari Ailus
2019-09-01 17:24             ` Pavel Machek
2019-09-02  8:00               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02  8:06                 ` Pavel Machek
2019-09-02  8:19                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02  8:27                     ` Pavel Machek
2019-09-02  8:53                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-09-02  9:41               ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15  7:00   ` Sakari Ailus
2019-08-15 12:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 13:08       ` Sakari Ailus
2019-08-15 13:10         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 13:15           ` Sakari Ailus
2019-08-15 13:19             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 13:30   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 13:48     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 14:02     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 20:28 ` [RFC 3/5] media: v4l2-ctrls: Add support for V4L2_CID_LOCATION Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 22:53   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 13:02     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15 13:03       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15 13:41       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 13:50         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-15 14:12           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 13:23   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-08-15 13:50     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 20:28 ` [RFC 4/5] media: i2c: ov5670: Report the camera location Jacopo Mondi
2019-08-14 23:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-08-15  7:04   ` Sakari Ailus
2019-08-14 20:28 ` [RFC 5/5] media: i2c: ov13858: " Jacopo Mondi

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