From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: wangyushan <wangyushan12@huawei.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>
Cc: alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com, arnd@arndb.de, fustini@kernel.org,
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SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
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Zeng Heng <zengheng4@huawei.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] soc cache: L3 cache driver for HiSilicon SoC
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 16:15:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccedea22-5a90-48c7-8feb-a6f9da6e931a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a42c4d7-c453-45a7-b569-89a3a2ee7246@huawei.com>
Hi Yushan,
On 2/6/26 09:54, wangyushan wrote:
>
> On 2/5/2026 6:18 PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 10:12:33 +0100
>> Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> But does the developer know if that hard kernel is importantest
>>> taken into account all other processes running on the system,
>>> and what happens if several processes say they have
>>> such hard kernels? Who will arbitrate? That is usually the
>>> kernels job.
>>
>> Take the closest example to this which is resctl (mpam on arm).
>> This actually has a feature that smells a bit like this.
>> Pseudo-cache locking.
>>
>> https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/resctrl.html#cache-pseudo-locking
>>
>> My understanding is that the semantics of that don't align perfectly
>> with what we have here. Yushan can you add more on why we didn't
>> try to fit into that scheme? Other than the obvious bit that more
>> general upstream support for the arch definitions of MPAM is a work in
>> progress and fitting vendor specific features on top will be tricky
>> for a while at least. The hardware here is also independent of the
>> MPAM support.
>
> Intel cache pseudo lock requires help of IA32_PQR_ASSOC MSR, according
> to [1], that register can save necessary information for processes acquired
> cache pseudo locks, but Arm64 does not have the equivalent register.
If you have MPAM, the per exception level MPAMx_ELy registers are
somewhat equivalent. They tell you which partid and pmg identifiers the
CPU is using and IA32_PQR_ASSOC tells you the closid and rmid which are
much the same thing. Is there a difference that stops being equivalent
in this scenario?
>
> [1]: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/cache-allocation-technology-usage-models.html
>
[...]
Thanks,
Ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-06 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 16:18 [PATCH 0/3] soc: Enable cache lockdown for HiSilicon L3 cache Yushan Wang
2026-02-03 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] soc cache: L3 cache driver for HiSilicon SoC Yushan Wang
2026-02-03 17:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-04 9:51 ` wangyushan
2026-02-05 9:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-05 11:19 ` wangyushan
2026-02-05 11:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-05 11:30 ` wangyushan
2026-02-04 0:10 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-04 9:53 ` wangyushan
2026-02-04 10:06 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-04 13:40 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-04 13:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-05 2:20 ` SeongJae Park
2026-02-05 9:12 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-05 10:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-05 13:47 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-05 14:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-06 8:05 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-05 14:37 ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-06 9:54 ` wangyushan
2026-02-06 16:15 ` Ben Horgan [this message]
2026-02-06 10:07 ` wangyushan
2026-02-06 10:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-06 12:44 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-04 2:47 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-03 16:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] soc cache: L3 cache lockdown support " Yushan Wang
2026-02-03 16:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] Documentation: soc cache: Add documentation to HiSilicon SoC cache Yushan Wang
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