From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mcgrof@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, hch@infradead.org,
david@fromorbit.com, rafael@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
pavel@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
will@kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] vfs: add filesystem freeze/thaw callbacks for power management
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 10:14:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd5c3d8aab9c5fb37fa018cb3302ecf7d2bdb140.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250328-luxus-zinspolitik-835cc75fbad5@brauner>
On Fri, 2025-03-28 at 11:08 +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 10:06:13AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
[...]
> > +
> > +static void filesystems_freeze_callback(struct super_block *sb)
> > +{
> > + /* errors don't fail suspend so ignore them */
> > + if (sb->s_op->freeze_super)
> > + sb->s_op->freeze_super(sb, FREEZE_MAY_NEST
> > + | FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL
> > + | freeze_flags);
> > + else if (sb->s_bdev)
> > + freeze_super(sb, FREEZE_MAY_NEST |
> > FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL
> > + | freeze_flags);
> > + else {
> > + pr_info("Ignoring filesystem %s\n", sb->s_type-
> > >name);
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + pr_info("frozen %s, now syncing block ...", sb->s_type-
> > >name);
> > + sync_blockdev(sb->s_bdev);
> > + pr_info("done.");
> > +}
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * filesystems_freeze - freeze callback for power management
> > + *
> > + * Freeze all active filesystems (in reverse superblock order)
> > + */
> > +void filesystems_freeze(bool for_hibernate)
> > +{
> > + freeze_flags = for_hibernate ? FREEZE_FOR_HIBERNATE : 0;
> > + __iterate_supers_rev(filesystems_freeze_callback);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void filesystems_thaw_callback(struct super_block *sb)
> > +{
> > + if (sb->s_op->thaw_super)
> > + sb->s_op->thaw_super(sb, FREEZE_MAY_NEST
> > + | FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL
> > + | freeze_flags);
> > + else if (sb->s_bdev)
> > + thaw_super(sb, FREEZE_MAY_NEST |
> > FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL
> > + | freeze_flags);
> > +}
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * filesystems_thaw - thaw callback for power management
> > + *
> > + * Thaw all active filesystems (in forward superblock order)
> > + */
> > +void filesystems_thaw(bool for_hibernate)
> > +{
> > + freeze_flags = for_hibernate ? FREEZE_FOR_HIBERNATE : 0;
> > + __iterate_supers(filesystems_thaw_callback);
>
> This doesn't work and I've explained in my reply to Luis how this
> doesn't work and what the alternative are:
>
> A concurrent umount() can wipe the filesystem behind your back. So
> you either need an active superblock reference or you need to
> communicate that the superblock is locked through the new flag I
> proposed (naming irrelevant for now).
Since this is a hybrid thread between power management and VFS, could I
just summarize what I think the various superblock locks are before
discussing the actual problem (important because the previous threads
always gave the impression of petering out for fear of vfs locking).
s_count: outermost of the superblock locks refcounting the superblock
structure itself, making no guarantee that any of the underlying
filesystem superblock structures are attached (i.e. kill_sb() may have
been called). Taken by incrementing under the global sb_lock and
decremented using a put_super() variant.
s_active: an atomic reference counting the underlying filesystem
specific superblock structures. if you hold s_active, kill_sb cannot
be called. Acquired by atomic_inc_not_zero() with a possible failure
if it is zero and released by deactivate_super() and its variants.
s_umount: rwsem and innermost of the superblock locks. Used to protect
various operations from races. Taken exclusively with down_write and
shared with down_read. Private functions internal to super.c wrap this
with grab_super and super_lock_shared/excl() wrappers.
The explicit freeze/thaw_super() functions require the s_umount rwsem
in down_write or exclusive mode and take it as the first step in their
operation. Looking at the locking in fs_bdev_freeze/thaw() implies
that the super_operations freeze_super/thaw_super *don't* need this
taken (presumably they handle it internally).
Regards,
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-28 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-27 14:06 [RFC PATCH 0/4] vfs freeze/thaw on suspend/resume James Bottomley
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] locking/percpu-rwsem: add freezable alternative to down_read James Bottomley
2025-03-31 19:51 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 23:32 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 1:13 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-01 11:20 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 12:50 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 12:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 11:47 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] vfs: make sb_start_write freezable James Bottomley
2025-03-27 17:36 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] fs/super.c: introduce reverse superblock iterator and use it in emergency remount James Bottomley
2025-03-28 11:56 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 12:38 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extend freeze support to suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] super: remove pointless s_root checks Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] super: simplify user_get_super() Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] super: skip dying superblocks early Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] super: use a common iterator (Part 1) Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] super: use common iterator (Part 2) Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 18:58 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-29 7:34 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] super: add filesystem freezing helpers for suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Extend freeze support to " Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] super: remove pointless s_root checks Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 9:57 ` Jan Kara
2025-06-11 16:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-12 12:20 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] super: simplify user_get_super() Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 9:58 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] super: skip dying superblocks early Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:00 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] super: use a common iterator (Part 1) Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:01 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] super: use common iterator (Part 2) Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:07 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 10:15 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] super: add filesystem freezing helpers for suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:46 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:23 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 10:25 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 14:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Extend freeze support to " James Bottomley
2025-03-29 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-30 8:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-30 11:53 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-30 14:00 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 9:13 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:36 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 14:49 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 23:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] efivarfs: support freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] libfs: export find_next_child() Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] efivarfs: support freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 14:46 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 15:03 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 19:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 7:44 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Ard Biesheuvel
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] ext4: replace kthread freezing with auto fs freezing Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 9:16 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 9:35 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 10:08 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] btrfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] xfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 1:11 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-01 7:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 11:35 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-01 12:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: add owner of freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] fs: allow pagefault based writers to be frozen Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] power: freeze filesystems during suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 8:16 ` [PATCH 0/6] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 9:32 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 13:03 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 16:57 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fs: add owner of freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:56 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-03 19:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-04 10:24 ` [PATCH] fs: allow nesting with FREEZE_EXCL Christian Brauner
2025-04-07 9:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-07 11:18 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-09 10:38 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] fs: allow all writers to be frozen Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 15:32 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 16:03 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 16:13 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:59 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] power: freeze filesystems during suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 16:29 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] kernfs: add warning about implementing freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 15:00 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-20 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Askar Safin
2025-07-21 12:09 ` Jan Kara
2025-08-04 5:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-04 6:02 ` Askar Safin
2025-08-04 6:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-04-01 14:14 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-01 14:40 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-01 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 7:46 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-08 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-08 17:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-04-08 17:20 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-04-08 17:26 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-08 17:24 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-09 7:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] vfs: add filesystem freeze/thaw callbacks for power management James Bottomley
2025-03-27 18:20 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-28 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 14:36 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 10:08 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 14:14 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2025-03-28 15:52 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-29 8:23 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 12:01 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 14:40 ` James Bottomley
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