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From: "Daniel Spång" <daniel.spang@gmail.com>
To: "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Out of memory management in embedded systems
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:14:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd9edbf0709280714u7a03ec16pfe3cb7328dbab7ad@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0709281000300.9062@chaos.analogic.com>

On 9/28/07, linux-os (Dick Johnson) <linux-os@analogic.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, [iso-8859-1] Daniel Spång wrote:
>
> > On 9/28/07, linux-os (Dick Johnson) <linux-os@analogic.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> But an embedded system contains all the software that will
> >> ever be executed on that system! If it is properly designed,
> >> it can never run out of memory because everything it will
> >> ever do is known at design time.
> >
> > Not if its input is not known beforehand. Take a browser in a mobile
> > phone as an example, it does not know at design time how big the web
> > pages are. On the other hand we want to use as much memory as
> > possible, for cache etc., a method that involves the kernel would
> > simplify this and avoids setting manual limits.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
>
> Any networked appliance can (will) throw data away if there are
> no resources available.
>
> The length of a web-page is not relevent, nor is the length
> of any external data. Your example will buffer whatever it
> can and not read anything more from the external source until
> it has resources available unless it is broken.

And how do you determine when no resources are availabe? We are using
overcommit here so malloc() will always return non null.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-28 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-28 12:55 Daniel Spång
2007-09-28 13:09 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-28 13:30   ` Daniel Spång
2007-09-28 14:04     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-28 14:14       ` Daniel Spång [this message]
2007-09-28 15:16         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-28 20:58           ` Daniel Spång
2007-09-29 19:48             ` Abhishek Sagar
2007-09-28 14:17       ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-28 14:36         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-09-28 15:15           ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-28 23:00             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-09-29  1:59 ` Daniel Phillips
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     [not found]   ` <98oeB-7gA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <98oHC-8ai-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <98oRk-8mt-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <98pNu-1pp-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-29  9:15           ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]           ` <98v6u-1h1-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <98Qu9-170-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-10-01  7:58               ` Markku Savela
2007-10-01  8:13                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-10-01 16:27                   ` david
2007-10-01 20:25                     ` Robin Getz

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