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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Autotune swappiness01
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:58:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cone.1090882721.156452.20693.502@pc.kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040726134258.37531648.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton writes:

> Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:43:01AM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
>> > Low memory boxes and ones that are heavily laden with applications find 
>> > that ends up making things slow down trying to keep all applications in 
>> > physical ram.
>> 
>> 	Lowish memory boxes with plain desktop loads find that the default
>> of '60' is a terrible one (I'm speaking of 1GHz-ish machines with 256MB
>> (like mine) or 512MB (like a guy next to me)).  Every person I know who
>> installs 2.6 complains about how it feels slow and choppy.  I tell them
>> "The first thing I do after installing 2.6 is set swappiness to '20'."
>> Sure enough, they set swappiness to 20 and their box starts behaving
>> like a properly tuned one.
>> 	I don't know what workload the default of '60' is for, but for
>> the (128MB < x < 1GB) of RAM case, it sucks (and I've seen the same
>> behavior on a 300MHz 196MB box).
>> 
> 
> Yes, I think 60% is about right for a 512-768M box.  Too high for the
> smaller machines, too low for the larger ones.

Sigh.. 

I have a 1Gb desktop machine that refuses to keep my applications in ram 
overnight if I have a swappiness higher than the default so I think lots of 
desktop users with more ram will be unhappy with higher settings.

> More intelligent selection of the initial value is needed.

Perhaps, but I really doubt desktop users running mainline would be happy 
about it going significantly higher. 

Cheers,
Con


  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-26 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-26  0:25 [PATCH][2.6.8-rc1-mm1] " Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26  0:43   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  0:48     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26  1:01       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  1:09         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  8:52           ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26  9:31             ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 10:34               ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 10:29                 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 10:54                   ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 11:03                     ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 11:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-26 11:17                         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 11:47                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-26 13:53                             ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 18:45                               ` Adam Kropelin
2004-07-26 18:53                                 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 17:55                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2004-07-26 20:29     ` Joel Becker
2004-07-26 20:42       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26 22:58         ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-07-27  0:52           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  1:09             ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-27  1:17               ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  2:03                 ` Tim Connors
2004-07-27  2:43                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-27  3:02                     ` Tim Connors
2004-07-27  3:43                       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  3:47                       ` Joel Becker
2004-07-27 15:32                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-27  3:41                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-26 14:52 Martin Knoblauch
2004-07-26 21:29 DaMouse

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