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From: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	"Jeremy Katz" <katzj@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davej@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Map volume and brightness events on thinkpads
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:12:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d120d5000710161312r5676cad8o60e0790a4e8d5256@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710161208340.6887@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On 10/16/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > >
> > > It still doesn't mean it belongs inside the stream of data for the keyboard,
> > > maskerading as a key press.
> >
> > But it *is* a key press!
>
> To get somewhat back on track: volume and brightness (and similar - lid
> close etc) events clearly are keypresses.
>
> However, I would also argue that a keypress that is acted on by the
> firmware automatically is *different* from a keypress that hasn't been
> acted on: one is a "key was pressed *and* hardware did something
> automatically", and the other is just a "key was pressed" event.
>
> IOW, I think the thinkpad issue (and others like it) should be fixed by
> splitting up the KEY_VOLUMEUP "key" into separate KEY_VOLUMEUP and
> KEY_VOLUMEUP_NOTIFY key events, so that downstream user mode (and the
> kernel itself, for that matter) can know whether it's a informational
> message or whether it should be acted upon.

I agree that these are 2 different events. My argument is that
"VOLUME_UP_NOTIFY" event is similar to "BATTERY_OUT_NOTIFY",
"DOCK_UNDOCK_NOTIFY", etc, etc and should be sent not through input
layer but through a generic (yet to be designed) notification
mechanism. Something lighter than input. Something like uevents over
netlink.


-- 
Dmitry

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-16 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-15 20:45 Jeremy Katz
2007-10-15 21:07 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-15 21:27   ` Jeremy Katz
2007-10-16  9:12     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-15 21:43   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-16  3:38   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-10-16  8:36     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16  8:49       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-10-16  9:18         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-17  2:40           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-10-17  6:25             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-17  6:32               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-10-17  6:39                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 13:00   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 14:11     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 14:21       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 14:31         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 14:40           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 16:56             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 18:46               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 19:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-16 19:20                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 20:02                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 20:15                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-16 20:12                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2007-10-16 20:11                     ` Jeremy Katz
2007-10-16 20:19                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-16 20:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 15:57                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-17 16:28                         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-17 17:35                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-17 18:59                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-17 20:42                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-18 14:37                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-18 22:39                                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-23 15:54                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-23 23:34                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-10-16 20:48                     ` Kok, Auke
2007-10-16 20:55                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 21:18                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-16 20:32                   ` Dave Airlie
2007-10-16 14:27       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-16 14:54         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 15:54           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-16 15:59             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 18:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-16 19:23   ` Renato S. Yamane

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