From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Cc: patches@amperecomputing.com, cl@linux.com,
Shubhang@os.amperecomputing.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vschneid@redhat.com,
vineethr@linux.ibm.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] sched: update the rq->avg_idle when a task is moved to an idle CPU
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 17:15:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1fca16a-2136-4601-b1fe-26ae3c670801@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251209094508.570049-3-shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>
On 09.12.25 10:45, Huang Shijie wrote:
> In the newidle balance, the rq->idle_stamp may set to a non-zero value
> if it cannot pull any task.
>
> In the wakeup, it will detect the rq->idle_stamp, and updates
> the rq->avg_idle, then ends the CPU idle status by setting rq->idle_stamp
> to zero.
>
> Besides the wakeup, current code does not end the CPU idle status
> when a task is moved to the idle CPU, such as fork/clone, execve,
> or other cases. In order to get more accurate rq->avg_idle,
> we need to update it at more places(not only the wakeup).
>
> This patch introduces a helper: update_rq_avg_idle().
> And uses it in enqueue_task(), so it will update the rq->avg_idle
> when a task is moved to an idle CPU at:
> -- wakeup
> -- fork/clone
> -- execve
> -- idle balance
> -- other cases
[...]
In v2 you moved update_rq_avg_idle() (1) from activate_task() (2) to
enqueue_task() to possibly handle delayed tasks.
In v3 you figured there can't be any delayed task on a CPU when it sets
rq->idle_stamp in sched_balance_newidle()
So you could move (1) back to (2) avoiding the 'if rq->idle_stamp' for
the sched_change pattern for instance?
I tried to understand whether this patch could help with one issue we
currently have with 'DCPerf Mediawiki' benchmark where on 2 comparable
servers, one has a 10% lower CPU utilization and I traced it down to
significantly different behaviour in sched_balance_newidle() and further
down to:
if (!get_rd_overloaded(this_rq->rd) || this_rq->avg_idle <
sd->max_newidle_lb_cost)
where the one with the lower CPU utilization bails out way less often
(because this_rq->avg_idle is very high, system is overloaded). But I
failed so far. Anyway, we'll use this patch for another test run right now.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-11 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-09 9:45 [PATCH v6 0/2] " Huang Shijie
2025-12-09 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] sched/fair: set rq->idle_stamp at the end of the sched_balance_newidle Huang Shijie
2025-12-09 9:45 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] sched: update the rq->avg_idle when a task is moved to an idle CPU Huang Shijie
2025-12-11 16:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2025-12-12 3:16 ` Shijie Huang
2025-12-12 14:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-12-15 9:35 ` Shijie Huang
2025-12-17 16:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-01-07 15:48 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-01-09 13:33 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-13 1:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-16 6:22 ` Shijie Huang
2025-12-16 7:17 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-16 7:38 ` Shijie Huang
2025-12-16 8:47 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-12-16 9:49 ` Shijie Huang
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