From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: wufan <wufan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: 'Tyler Baicar' <baicar.tyler@gmail.com>,
'Tyler Baicar' <tbaicar@codeaurora.org>,
'Linux Kernel Mailing List' <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
harba@qti.qualcomm.com, 'Borislav Petkov' <bp@alien8.de>,
mchehab@kernel.org,
'arm-mail-list' <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-edac@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] EDAC, ghes: Enable per-layer error reporting for ARM
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:09:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4ee6d3a-b3ac-2986-40db-8423de7e960a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000b01d43bb6$f9419b20$ebc4d160$@codeaurora.org>
Hi Fan,
On 24/08/18 15:30, wufan wrote:
>> Why get avoid the layer stuff? Isn't counting DIMM/memory-devices what
>> EDAC_MC_LAYER_SLOT is for?
>
> Borislav has explained it in his response. Here let me elaborate a little more.
> To use the layer information you need an accurate way to pinpoint each component
> in the layer and the parent components in the layers above. For example, to use
> EDAC_MC_LAYER_SLOT you also need information for the parent layer say
> EDAC_MC_LAYER_CHANNEL, or another layer on top say EDAC_MC_LAYER_BRANCH.
I haven't spotted anything that forces a particular meaning/topology on these
types. (there are four of them, but only three 'levels')
i3000_edac.c has EDAC_MC_LAYER_CHIP_SELECT then EDAC_MC_LAYER_CHANNEL,
but i5400_edac.c has EDAC_MC_LAYER_BRANCH then EDAC_MC_LAYER_CHANNEL.
pnd2_edac.c agrees that channel comes before slot, but thunderx_edac.c just uses
slot directly....
ghes-edac already describes memory as 'EDAC_MC_LAYER_ALL_MEM', with num_dimms, I
think we just need to get 'the' dimm number. Using the cper-module-handle means
we don't have to worry about firmware's count of dimms being different, as we
both agree its smbios-type-17 we're talking about.
> There
> are no clear ways to get the information from SMBIOS table. In the case of "memory
> channel" we looked at type 37 which has the exact spelling but it was introduced
> to support RamBus and Synclink. Not sure we can readily use it for modern
> architecture concept of "channel/slot".
I think we should avoid this 'channel' thing as it means different things to
different people!
We can use ghes:card smbios:physical-memory-array as the UEFI spec tells us they
are the same, and we don't actually need to know what they mean.
> I think it is good enough if we can pin each error to the corresponding DIMM.
> At the end of the day DIMMs are what customer can replace in the memory system
> and that's all that they care about. For the manufacturers of the board/chips
> they have the knowledge to map the specific DIMMs to the upper layer components,
> so they can easily collect error counter data for upper layers.
I agree.
>> CPER's "Memory Error Record 2" thinks that "NODE, CARD and MODULE
>> should provide the information necessary to identify the failing FRU". As
>> EDAC has three 'levels', these are what they should correspond to for ghes-
>> edac.
>>
>> I assume NODE means rack/chassis in some distributed system. Lets ignore it
>> as it doesn't seem to map to anything in the SMBIOS table.
>
> How about type 4 "Processor Information"?
As the spec doesn't tell us what the field means, we can't really do anything
other than print the value out.
>> 'Card' doesn't mean much to me, but it maps to SMBIOS:17 "Memory Array
>> Structure", which the Memory Device structure also points to.
>> Card then must mean "a collection of memory devices (DIMMs) that operate
>> together to form an address space".
>>
>> This might be what I think of as a memory-controller, or it might be
>> something more complicated. Regardless, the CPER records think its relevant.
>
> Originally I thought "Card" were memory channel. But looking at the definition
> of "Card Handle" in CPER: "... this field contains the SMBIOS handle for the
> Type 16 Memory Array Structure that represents the memory card". So Card is
> memory controller or something similar to that.
> Right now ghes-edac assumes
> one mc. We probably need to map mc(s) to the type 16 instances in SMBIOS table.
I think we should ignore 'mc's, and just report the dimm numbers.
ghes-edac only cares about the number of dimms today, and this would work on
systems that only describe the dimms in the smbios table.
Thanks,
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-28 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-16 17:26 Tyler Baicar
2018-07-19 14:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-07-19 14:46 ` James Morse
2018-07-19 18:36 ` Tyler Baicar
2018-07-20 4:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-08-23 9:28 ` James Morse
2018-08-23 15:46 ` Tyler Baicar
2018-08-24 9:48 ` James Morse
2018-08-24 12:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-08-28 17:09 ` James Morse
2018-08-29 7:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-08-29 10:20 ` James Morse
2018-08-30 10:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-08-24 14:30 ` wufan
2018-08-28 17:09 ` James Morse [this message]
2018-08-24 15:14 ` Tyler Baicar
2018-08-28 17:11 ` James Morse
2018-08-28 20:04 ` Tyler Baicar
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