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From: "Xing, Cedric" <cedric.xing@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan"
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] tsm: Unified Measurement Register ABI for TVMs
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:50:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8f3eb33-d902-4391-adc7-005e4895b471@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <015cdddb-7f74-4205-af8a-b15cad7ddc22@intel.com>

On 2/13/2025 10:58 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 2/13/25 08:21, Xing, Cedric wrote:
>> On 2/12/2025 10:50 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 2/12/25 18:23, Cedric Xing wrote:
>>>> NOTE: This patch series introduces the Measurement Register (MR) ABI,
>>>> and
>>>> is a continuation of the RFC series on the same topic [1].
>>>
>>> Could you please explain how the benefits of this series are helpful to
>>> end users?
>>
>> This series exposes MRs as sysfs attributes, allowing end users to
>> access them effortlessly without needing to write any code. This
>> simplifies the process of debugging and diagnosing measurement-related
>> issues. Additionally, it makes the CC architecture more intuitive for
>> newcomers.
> 
> Wait a sec, so there's already ABI for manipulating these? This just
> adds a parallel sysfs interface to the existing ABI?
> 
No, this is new. There's no existing ABI for accessing measurement 
registers from within a TVM (TEE VM). Currently, on TDX for example, 
reading TDX measurement registers (MRs) must be done by getting a TD 
quote. And there's no way to extend any RTMRs. Therefore, it would be 
much easier end users to debug/diagnose measurement related issues 
(which would almost always require reading MRs) with this patch.

> Also, you're saying that users don't need to write any code, but then
> provide... sample code. That's unexpected.
> 
The sample code is to demo how to expose MRs from a CC guest driver, but 
not for end users to access those MRs.

> Oh, and you seem to have forgotten to attach the sysfs ABI documentation
> patch to the series. You did write the required documentation, right? ;)
Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-tsm (new file added by patch 1) 
contains a description on the attributes added by the patch.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-13 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-13  2:23 Cedric Xing
2025-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] tsm: Add TVM Measurement Register support Cedric Xing
2025-02-14  0:55   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-17  0:17   ` Huang, Kai
2025-02-17 10:44     ` Huang, Kai
2025-02-17 20:57     ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-18  9:14       ` Huang, Kai
2025-02-18 18:13         ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-18  1:10   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2025-02-20  1:01     ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH 2/4] tsm: Add TSM measurement sample code Cedric Xing
2025-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/tdx: Add tdx_mcall_rtmr_extend() interface Cedric Xing
2025-02-17  0:40   ` Huang, Kai
2025-02-17 20:58     ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-17 21:39       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2025-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86/tdx: Expose TDX MRs through TSM sysfs interface Cedric Xing
2025-02-13  4:50 ` [PATCH 0/4] tsm: Unified Measurement Register ABI for TVMs Dave Hansen
2025-02-13 16:21   ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-13 16:58     ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-13 21:50       ` Xing, Cedric [this message]
2025-02-13 23:19         ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-14 16:19           ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-14 16:26             ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-14 21:59               ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-18 16:25                 ` Dan Middleton
2025-02-18 16:57                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-18 23:57                     ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2025-02-19  0:41                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-19  3:21                         ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2025-02-19 13:29                           ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 15:24                             ` Dan Middleton
2025-02-19 20:53                               ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 22:25                                 ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-19 23:02                                 ` Dan Williams
2025-05-02  1:45                       ` Dan Williams
2025-02-18 14:49         ` Mikko Ylinen
2025-02-19  4:04           ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-19 11:31             ` Huang, Kai
2025-02-20  4:37               ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-19 14:03             ` Mikko Ylinen
2025-02-20  5:07               ` Xing, Cedric
2025-02-18  1:10 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy

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