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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] sched/pelt: Add a new runnable average signal
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:11:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9f78b94-2455-e000-82bd-c00cfb9bbc8e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtD4kz07hikCuU2_cm67ntruopN9CdJEP+fg5L4_N=qEgg@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/02/2020 14:36, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> I agree that setting by default to SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE is too much
> for little core.
> The problem for little core can be fixed by using the cpu capacity instead
> 

So that's indeed better for big.LITTLE & co. Any reason however for not
aligning with the initialization of util_avg ?

With the default MC imbalance_pct (117), it takes 875 utilization to make
a single CPU group (with 1024 capacity) overloaded (group_is_overloaded()).
For a completely idle CPU, that means forking at least 3 tasks (512 + 256 +
128 util_avg)

With your change, it only takes 2 tasks. I know I'm being nitpicky here, but
I feel like those should be aligned, unless we have a proper argument against
it - in which case this should also appear in the changelog with so far only
mentions issues with util_avg migration, not the fork time initialization.

> @@ -796,6 +794,8 @@ void post_init_entity_util_avg(struct task_struct *p)
>                 }
>         }
> 
> +       sa->runnable_avg = cpu_scale;
> +
>         if (p->sched_class != &fair_sched_class) {
>                 /*
>                  * For !fair tasks do:
>>
>>>               sa->load_avg = scale_load_down(se->load.weight);
>>> +     }
>>>
>>>       /* when this task enqueue'ed, it will contribute to its cfs_rq's load_avg */
>>>  }

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-20 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-14 15:27 [PATCH v2 0/5] remove runnable_load_avg and improve group_classify Vincent Guittot
2020-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] sched/fair: Reorder enqueue/dequeue_task_fair path Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 12:37   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-18 13:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 14:15       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-19 11:07         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-19 16:26           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-20 13:38             ` Dietmar Eggemann
     [not found]               ` <20200222152541.GA11669@geo.homenetwork>
2020-02-26 16:30                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] sched/numa: Replace runnable_load_avg by load_avg Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 12:37   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-18 13:50     ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-18 14:17       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 14:42         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-18 14:54   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-18 15:33     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 15:38     ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-18 16:50       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-18 17:41         ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-18 17:54           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-18 16:51       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] sched/pelt: Remove unused runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2020-02-21  9:57   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-21 11:56     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] sched/pelt: Add a new runnable average signal Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 14:54   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-18 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 15:28     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-18 16:30       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-18 21:19   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-19  9:02     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-19  9:08     ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-19 12:55   ` [PATCH v3 " Vincent Guittot
2020-02-19 14:02     ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-19 20:10     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-20 14:36       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-20 16:11         ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-02-21  8:56           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-24 15:57             ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-21  9:04           ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-21  9:25             ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-21 10:40               ` Mel Gorman
2020-02-21 13:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-20 15:04     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-21  9:44     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-02-21 11:47       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] sched/fair: Take into account runnable_avg to classify group Vincent Guittot
2020-02-15 21:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] remove runnable_load_avg and improve group_classify Mel Gorman
2020-02-21  9:58 ` Dietmar Eggemann

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