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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	 Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Remove use of apicv_update_lock when toggling guest debug state
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 14:42:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da91fc38126227c227a4fe6b85cd630ca1ca8853.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d86cce9-88c2-4b2f-a8a6-ee33d0e1c98d@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2025-02-04 at 18:58 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 2/4/25 18:51, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025, Naveen N Rao wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 09:00:05PM -0500, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2025-02-03 at 22:33 +0530, Naveen N Rao (AMD) wrote:
> > > > > apicv_update_lock is not required when querying the state of guest
> > > > > debug in all the vcpus. Remove usage of the same, and switch to
> > > > > kvm_set_or_clear_apicv_inhibit() helper to simplify the code.
> > > > 
> > > > It might be worth to mention that the reason why the lock is not needed,
> > > > is because kvm_vcpu_ioctl from which this function is called takes 'vcpu->mutex'
> > > > and thus concurrent execution of this function is not really possible.
> > > 
> > > Looking at this again, that looks to be a vcpu-specific lock, so I guess
> > > it is possible for multiple vcpus to run this concurrently?
> > 
> > Correct.
> 
> And this patch is incorrect. Because there is a store and many loads, 
> you have the typical race when two vCPUs set blockirq at the same time
> 
> 	vcpu 0				vcpu 1
> 	---------------			--------------
> 	set vcpu0->guest_debug
> 					clear vcpu1->guest_debug
> 	read vcpu0->guest_debug
> 	read vcpu1->guest_debug	
> 	set inhibit
> 					read stale vcpu0->guest_debug
> 					read vcpu1->guest_debug
> 					clear inhibit
> 
> But since this is really a slow path, why even bother optimizing it?
> 
> Paolo
> 


Paolo, you are absolutely right! the vcpu mutex only prevents concurrent ioctl
on a same vcpu, but not on different vcpus, and without locking of course
this patch isn't going to work. The per-vcpu mutex is not something I know well,
and I only recently made aware of it, so I mixed this thing up.

So yes, some kind of lock is needed here.

Best regards,
     Maxim Levitsky


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-04 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-03 17:03 [PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: Address performance degradation due to APICv inhibits Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2025-02-03 17:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Convert synic_auto_eoi_used to an atomic Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2025-02-04  1:30   ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-04 13:09     ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-04 19:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-05 11:00         ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-03 17:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Remove use of apicv_update_lock when toggling guest debug state Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2025-02-04  2:00   ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-04 13:10     ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-04 14:25     ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-04 17:51       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-04 17:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-04 19:42           ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2025-02-05 11:13         ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-03 17:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Decouple APICv activation state from apicv_inhibit_reasons Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2025-02-03 18:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03 22:22     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-03 23:46       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-04  1:23         ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-04 19:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-04 20:08             ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05  1:41               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-05 10:54                 ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-05 11:36             ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-11 15:57               ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-11 16:37                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-11 18:13                   ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-04 11:06         ` Naveen N Rao
2025-02-04 14:08           ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-11 14:37             ` Naveen N Rao

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