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From: "Chen, Zide" <zide.chen@intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>,
	Das Sandipan <Sandipan.Das@amd.com>,
	Shukla Manali <Manali.Shukla@amd.com>,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	Xudong Hao <xudong.hao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Emulate the GLOBAL_STATUS_SET and GLOBAL_INUSE MSRs
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 12:20:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc0e6998-6b8c-4b0c-a04e-b6af0a1cf653@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eTHRzXXm1gpKR3u1nzJU3i9M1a_wUjp9+bD8_r4eoPQ_Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 10/30/2026 6:55 AM, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 10:45 AM Chen, Zide <zide.chen@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 10/28/2026 4:24 PM, Jim Mattson wrote:
> [ ... ]
>>> As I pointed out in patch 04/16, we can't pass through the PMU global
>>> controls unless their reserved bits match hardware.
>>
>> Totally agree. Then the handling of bit 55 breaks this rule as well.
>>
>> if (vmx_pt_mode_is_host_guest())
>>         pmu->global_status_rsvd &= ~GLOBAL_STATUS_TRACE_TOPAPMI;
>>
>> Always intercepting GLOBAL_OVF_CTRL and GLOBAL_STATUS_SET can solve this
>> problem, but it may impair guest performance, especially for nested.
>>
>> Instead, I'd propal to have separate reserved masks:
>> - pmu->global_status_rsvd: unchanged, strictly tracking virtualized
>> guest state and preserving live migration validation.
>> - pmu->global_status_{clr,set}_rsvd: unmasking all architecturally valid
>> hardware bits for the corresponding MSRs on v4+.
>>
>> Any bits allowed by hardware but unvirtualized by KVM are
>> scrubbed/filtered in intel_mediated_pmu_{put,load}().
> 
> That is a terrible proposal. MSR bits that vanish at unpredictable
> times?!? No. If an MSR contains bits that aren't virtualized, that MSR
> can't be passed through. Full stop.

OK, I agree. I will intercept GLOBAL_STATUS_SET (0x391) and remove the
nested_vmx_merge_msr_bitmaps() for it.

However, I propose we keep GLOBAL_OVF_CTRL (0x390) passed through, even
though its reserved bits don't match hardware. Since it is
write-1-to-clear, it cannot manufacture unvirtualized state or leak host
data.

The only divergence is the lack of a #GP if the guest writes an
unvirtualized but hardware-valid bit. If we want to eliminate this
behavior by intercepting it, it will force an additional VM-exit on
every single guest PMI.

What do you think?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-30 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 22:37 [PATCH] KVM: x86/pmu: Add mediated vPMU PerfMon v5 support Zide Chen
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Remove redundant Perf Global Status MSR bit definitions Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:07   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:03   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Rename all_valid_pmc_idx to pmc_exists Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:09   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:04   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Rename reserved_bits to eventsel_rsvd in kvm_pmu Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:17   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:05   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Gate BUFFER_OVF reserved bit on guest DS Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:30   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:25   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 19:05     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Add PMC bitmap accessor helpers Zide Chen
2026-09-01  2:43   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:32   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 17:24     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Drop nr_arch_{gp,fixed}_counters from kvm_pmu Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:07   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 14:49   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 17:04     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Expose kvm_host_pmu to vendor modules Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:08   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 17:33   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] perf/x86: Plumb counter bitmap from x86_pmu to x86_pmu_cap Zide Chen
2026-10-28 17:39   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Switch to bitmask-based KVM PMU capabilities Zide Chen
2026-09-01  3:32   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 17:57   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 20:56     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] perf/x86: Remove num_counters_{gp,fixed} from x86_pmu_capability Zide Chen
2026-10-28 18:01   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Emulate the GLOBAL_STATUS_SET and GLOBAL_INUSE MSRs Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:45   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-09-01 14:20     ` Chen, Zide
2026-09-02  0:44       ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:24   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-29 17:45     ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-30 11:55       ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-30 17:20         ` Chen, Zide [this message]
2026-10-30 18:23           ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-30 20:01             ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-30 22:13     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Populate CPUID.0AH:ECX fixed-counter bitmap Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:50   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:29   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 21:55     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Factor out fixed counter control bit calculation Zide Chen
2026-09-01  6:57   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:30   ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Ignore AnyThread bit if CPUID.0AH:EDX[15] is set Zide Chen
2026-09-01  8:01   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-10-28 21:50   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 23:05     ` Chen, Zide
2026-10-28 23:09       ` Jim Mattson
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] KVM: x86/pmu: Advertise PerfMon version 5 on Intel hosts Zide Chen
2026-10-28 21:59   ` Jim Mattson
2026-10-28 22:10     ` Chen, Zide
2026-08-27 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] KVM: selftests: Support fixed counters bitmap in pmu_counters_test Zide Chen
2026-08-29  9:30 ` [PATCH] KVM: x86/pmu: Add mediated vPMU PerfMon v5 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-19 19:15 ` [PATCH v2] " Chen, Zide

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