From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/18] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA configuration definitions and data structures
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 17:40:35 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc9f3713-8041-4b54-98c5-4ff262b948c3@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f14a2b1-2d95-4606-9242-eba62afeb856@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 10/20/2026 4:47 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 10/20/26 11:02 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> On 10/19/26 11:16, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> On 10/15/26 4:07 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/26 09:22, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/26 8:10 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>>>> Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) enables the kernel to switch to
>>>>>> a different CLOSID and/or RMID than those used in user mode when entering
>>>>>> kernel mode. CLOSID and RMID selection are independent and can be
>>>>>> configured separately.
>>>>>
>>>>> That CLOSID and RMID are independent on x86 is clear to me. That they can be
>>>>> configured separately is not clear to me in this context. What does this
>>>>> "separate configuration" refer to? Looking at the later patches kernel
>>>>> mode allocation and monitoring associations are always configured together
>>>>> and written to same MSR at the same time?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point. Its confusing. What I meant is that allocation (CLOSID)
>>>> and monitoring (RMID) associations are independent PLZA features and
>>>> can be enabled independently in hardware. For example, a platform
>>>> may enable kernel mode CLOSID association without enabling kernel
>>>> mode RMID association, or vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. The kernel interface configures both together because they are carried in the same IA32_PQR_ASSOC MSR update.
>>>>
>>>> How about?
>>>>
>>>> Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) enables the kernel to use a
>>>> different CLOSID and/or RMID in kernel mode than in user mode.
>>>> Allocation (CLOSID) and monitoring (RMID) associations are
>>>> independent PLZA features and may be enabled independently by
>>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> Which CLOSID (MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.closid) and/or RMID (MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.rmid)
>>> is used in kernel mode is different from whether the CLOSID (MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.closid_en)
>>> and/or RMID (MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.rmid_en) is used in kernel mode.
>>>
>>> This series uses the high level "allocation and monitoring association" term
>>> interchangeably for both of these meanings and doing so causes confusion.
>>>
>>> Please pick specific terms to refer to the CLOSID/RMID assigned to kernel mode vs
>>> whether the CLOSID/RMID assignment is enabled and use it throughout the series.
>>>
>>
>> Another attempt to capture all the details:
>>
>> "Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) enables the kernel to use a
>> different CLOSID and/or RMID than those used in user mode when
>> executing in kernel mode. CLOSID and RMID selection can be
>> configured independently.
>
> First sentence already contains "and/or" so I think the last sentence can just
> be dropped.
>
ok.
>>
>> The kernel mode CLOSID and RMID are specified by
>> MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.closid and MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.rmid,
>> respectively. plza_en activates the PLZA operation, while closid_en
>> and rmid_en independently control whether the corresponding kernel
>> mode CLOSID or RMID is used.
>
> Please aim to provide higher level description than what can be seen
> from the patch.
>
Ack.
>>
>> Make the register and its field layout available so kernel mode
>> allocation (CLOSID) and monitoring (RMID) selection can be
>> configured independently."
>
> Apologies but I really do not understand why the "independently"
> distinction is needed since these values are always programmed together.
No problem. This looks good.
>
> Here is an attempt, but it is written without knowing which terms you have
> picked to stick with:
>
> x86/resctrl: Add PLZA MSR definition and field layout
>
> Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) enables a CPU to use a different
> CLOSID and/or RMID when executing in kernel mode than those used in user
> mode.
>
> PLZA is programmed per CPU through MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC, which contains
> the kernel mode CLOSID and RMID, an enable bit for each, and a bit that
> enables PLZA on the CPU. All fields except the PLZA enable bit must be
> programmed identically on every CPU in a domain.
>
> Make the register and its field layout available in preparation for resctrl
> support of kernel mode allocation and monitoring.
>
thanks
Babu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-20 22:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-01 15:10 [PATCH v6 00/18] x86,fs/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 01/18] x86/cpufeatures: Support Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-15 23:02 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 02/18] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA support to command-line options Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-15 23:03 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 03/18] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA configuration definitions and data structures Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-15 23:07 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-19 16:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 18:02 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-20 21:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 22:40 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 04/18] fs/resctrl: Introduce kernel mode enum Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-15 23:09 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-19 16:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 05/18] x86,arm,fs/resctrl: Introduce architecture hook to program global kernel mode Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-15 23:12 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 06/18] fs/resctrl: Introduce kernel mode states for resctrl Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 15:10 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-19 16:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 14:20 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 07/18] fs/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_set_kmode_support() to register supported modes Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 15:27 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-19 16:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 14:46 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 08/18] x86/resctrl: Register RESCTRL_GLOBAL_ENABLE_PER_CPU when PLZA is available Babu Moger
2026-10-15 14:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 15:50 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 09/18] fs/resctrl: Add interface to display kernel mode status Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 19:10 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-19 16:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 10/18] fs/resctrl: Add support for hidden resource group files Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:27 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 20:53 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-19 16:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 19:10 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-20 22:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 11/18] fs/resctrl: Introduce kmode_cpus/kmode_cpus_list per rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 21:33 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-19 16:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 12/18] fs/resctrl: Add CPU hotplug support for kernel mode associations Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-16 22:21 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 13/18] fs/resctrl: Deactivate kernel mode associations when a group is removed Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-19 15:47 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-19 16:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 14/18] fs/resctrl: Control visibility of global per-CPU kernel mode group files Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-19 16:31 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-19 22:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 15/18] fs/resctrl: Reject mode changes for groups backing kernel mode Babu Moger
2026-10-15 15:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-19 17:43 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-19 22:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 16:41 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 16/18] fs/resctrl: Add interface to modify kernel mode via info/kernel_mode Babu Moger
2026-10-15 16:07 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-20 0:21 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 17/18] fs/resctrl: Allow user space to write kmode_cpus/kmode_cpus_list Babu Moger
2026-10-01 15:10 ` [PATCH v6 18/18] fs/resctrl: Add kernel mode documentation and examples Babu Moger
2026-10-17 0:13 ` [PATCH v6 00/18] x86,fs/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Drew Fustini
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