From: Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: Amery Hung <ameryhung@gmail.com>,
Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
Nicholas Carlini <npc@anthropic.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/6] bpf: Scope callback arguments to their frame
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 23:13:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ddb3c0eb-2a95-4af8-a9b9-a0624d38a7bc@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLLGYV7DI406.JRNDNAZ4S29I@gmail.com>
On 2026-09-21 6:55 p.m., Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 06:03 PM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>
>> Neither has a local fix: both arguments point into a helper's own
>> frame, with nothing longer-lived to anchor them to.
>
> It's the same problem as a pointer to callee's stack.
> check_stack_write_fixed_off() deals with it like this:
> if (state != cur && reg->type == PTR_TO_STACK) {
> verbose(env, "cannot spill pointers to stack into stack frame of the caller\n");
> return -EINVAL;
> }
> CONST_PTR_TO_DYNPTR wasn't spillable before 7.3, so nothing depends
> on parking it in the caller's frame. Reject it there too ?
> and then no need for REF_TYPE_FRAME complexity?
If we focus on the nasty bpf_user_ringbuf_drain() bug specifically,
then yes, check_stack_write_fixed_off() change patches it:
diff --git a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
index d62c0f74cff5..f261423e9282 100644
--- a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
+++ b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
@@ -3668,7 +3668,8 @@ static int check_stack_write_fixed_off(struct
bpf_verifier_env *env,
verbose(env, "invalid size of register spill\n");
return -EACCES;
}
- if (state != cur && reg->type == PTR_TO_STACK) {
+ if (state != cur && (reg->type == PTR_TO_STACK ||
+ reg->type == CONST_PTR_TO_DYNPTR)) {
verbose(env, "cannot spill pointers to stack
into stack frame of the caller\n");
return -EINVAL;
}
However it doesn't cover some of the new test cases:
- user_ringbuf_callback_park_data_slice
- user_ringbuf_callback_park_kfunc_slice
- user_ringbuf_callback_park_clone
- user_ringbuf_callback_park_clone_then_slice
(not counting the diag message diff)
The original suggestion that came with the bug report was a
cb_dynptr_id field in bpf_func_state set up in
set_user_ringbuf_callback_state() and read in prepare_func_exit() to
release it there.
The cb_dynptr_id seemed way too specific, I didn't like it. So I've
tried to figure out a feasible generalization of the problem, and came
to "verifier can't track a lifetime of a ref tied to a frame", and
then to this series.
I think we need to decide whether the REF_TYPE_FRAME is a useful
mechanism in principle, and whether it's sufficiently generic. It at
least covers the cases in this series and more.
For example AI also flagged for me parking the vma argument
(PTR_TO_BTF_ID) of the bpf_find_vma() callback. It's low severity,
which is why I excluded that from the series, but "reject a reg type"
wouldn't work there AFAIU (we would break many legitimate programs).
Opinions?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-22 6:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-22 1:03 Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/6] bpf: Introduce REF_TYPE_FRAME in the verifier Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 2:01 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 2/6] bpf: Scope the bpf_user_ringbuf_drain() dynptr to its callback frame Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:47 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 3/6] bpf: Name the callback in frame-release diagnostics Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 4/6] selftests/bpf: Cover the user ringbuf callback dynptr lifetime Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:47 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 5/6] bpf: Scope the bpf_for_each_map_elem() array key to the callback frame Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 6/6] selftests/bpf: Cover callback-frame map key lifetime Ihor Solodrai
2026-09-22 1:47 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-22 1:55 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/6] bpf: Scope callback arguments to their frame Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-22 2:15 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-22 6:13 ` Ihor Solodrai [this message]
2026-09-22 22:41 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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