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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	seanjc@google.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, kai.huang@intel.com,
	isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 22:45:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df05e4fe-a50b-49a8-9ea0-2077cb061c44@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfbyd-a_bD-3fKmF3jVgrTiCDa3SHmrmugRji8BB-vs5GA@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/12/2024 10:09 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 9:48 AM Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2024 1:52 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 8/13/24 00:48, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
>>>> For KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES, there was also the problem of bits that are
>>>> actually supported by KVM, but missing from get_supported_cpuid() for one
>>>> reason or another. These include X86_FEATURE_MWAIT, X86_FEATURE_HT and
>>>> X86_FEATURE_TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER. This is currently worked around in
>>>> QEMU by
>>>> adjusting which features are expected.
>>
>> I'm not sure what issue/problem can be worked around in QEMU.
>> QEMU doesn't expect these bit are reported by KVM as supported for TDX.
>> QEMU just accepts the result reported by KVM.
> 
> QEMU already adds some extra bits, for example:
> 
>          ret |= CPUID_EXT_HYPERVISOR;
>          if (kvm_irqchip_in_kernel() &&
>                  kvm_check_extension(s, KVM_CAP_TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER)) {
>              ret |= CPUID_EXT_TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER;
>          }
> 
>> The problem is, TDX module and the hardware allow these bits be
>> configured for TD guest, but KVM doesn't allow. It leads to users cannot
>> create a TD with these bits on.
> 
> KVM is not going to have any checks, it's only going to pass the
> CPUID to the TDX module and return an error if the check fails
> in the TDX module.

If so, new feature can be enabled for TDs out of KVM's control.

Is it acceptable?

> KVM can have a TDX-specific version of KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, so
> that we can keep a variant of the "get supported bits and pass them
> to KVM_SET_CPUID2" logic, but that's it.
> 
>>> This is the kind of API that we need to present for TDX, even if the
>>> details on how to get the supported CPUID are different.  Not because
>>> it's a great API, but rather because it's a known API.
>>
>> However there are differences for TDX. For legacy VMs, the result of
>> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID isn't used to filter the input of KVM_SET_CPUID2.
>> But for TDX, it needs to filter the input of KVM_TDX_VM_INIT.CPUID[]
>> because TDX module only allows the bits that are reported as
>> configurable to be set to 1.
> 
> Yes, that's userspace's responsibility.
> 
>> With current designed API, QEMU can only know which bits are
>> configurable before KVM_TDX_VM_INIT, i.e., which bits can be set to 1 or
>> 0 freely.
> 
> The API needs userspace to have full knowledge of the
> requirements of the TDX module, if it wants to change the
> defaults provided by KVM.
> 
> This is the same as for non-TDX VMs (including SNP).  The only
> difference is that TDX and SNP fails, while non-confidential VMs
> get slightly garbage CPUID.
> 
>> For other bits not reported as configurable, QEMU can know the exact
>> value of them via KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID, after KVM_TDX_VM_INIT and before
>> TD's running. With it, QEMU can validate the return value is matched
>> with what QEMU wants to set that determined by users input. If not
>> matched, QEMU can provide some warnings like what for legacy VMs:
>>
>>     - TDX doesn't support requested feature: CPUID.01H.ECX.tsc-deadline
>> [bit 24]
>>     - TDX forcibly sets features: CPUID.01H:ECX.hypervisor [bit 31]
>>
>> If there are ioctls to report the fixed0 bits and fixed1 bits for TDX,
>> QEMU can validate the user's configuration earlier.
> 
> Yes, that's fine.
> 
> Paolo
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 191+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12 22:47 [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 01/25] KVM: TDX: Add placeholders for TDX VM/vCPU structures Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 02/25] KVM: TDX: Define TDX architectural definitions Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-29 13:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-29 19:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  1:29       ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-30  4:45         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 17:49         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 03/25] KVM: TDX: Add TDX "architectural" error codes Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:08   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-29  5:24     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-30  5:52       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  5:58           ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 04/25] KVM: TDX: Add C wrapper functions for SEAMCALLs to the TDX module Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 05/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to print TDX SEAMCALL error Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 16:32   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-13 22:34     ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-14  0:31       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30  5:56         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 06/25] x86/virt/tdx: Export TDX KeyID information Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-30 18:45   ` Dave Hansen
2024-08-30 19:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 21:18       ` Dave Hansen
2024-09-10 16:26         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 07/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to allocate/free TDX private host key id Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:39     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 16:42       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:43         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 08/25] KVM: TDX: Add place holder for TDX VM specific mem_enc_op ioctl Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:25   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-13 16:37   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30  6:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 09/25] KVM: TDX: Get system-wide info about TDX module on initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:47   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30  6:59     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-14  6:18   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-21  0:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21  6:14       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15  7:59   ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30  7:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02  1:25       ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-02  5:05         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 10/25] KVM: TDX: Initialize KVM supported capabilities when module setup Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  3:25   ` Chao Gao
2024-08-13  5:26     ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-30  8:44       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-13  7:24     ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-14  0:26       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14  2:36         ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30  8:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:07         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03 16:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-19  1:33   ` Tao Su
2024-08-29 13:28     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-26 11:04   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29  4:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:15       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:04         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-10  8:25           ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10  9:49             ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-04 11:58   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-05 13:36     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12  8:04       ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12  8:37         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12  8:43           ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12  9:07             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:12               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:18                 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 11/25] KVM: TDX: Report kvm_tdx_caps in KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  3:35   ` Chao Gao
2024-08-19 10:24     ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:06       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 12/25] KVM: TDX: Allow userspace to configure maximum vCPUs for TDX guests Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  1:17   ` Tao Su
2024-08-21  0:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  8:53     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-30  2:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 13/25] KVM: TDX: create/destroy VM structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-14  3:08   ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-21  6:13     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-16  7:31   ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30  9:26     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 15:09   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:23     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21  5:39       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-21 16:52         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  9:40           ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02  9:22     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 14/25] KVM: TDX: initialize VM with TDX specific parameters Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 15:35   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-29  6:27   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-02 10:31     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-05  6:59       ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-05  9:27         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06  4:05           ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-06  4:32             ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06 13:52               ` Wang, Wei W
2024-09-03  2:58   ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-03  5:44     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03  8:04       ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-05  9:31         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-01 20:45           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-02 23:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 15/25] KVM: TDX: Make pmu_intel.c ignore guest TD case Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-01 10:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 16/25] KVM: TDX: Don't offline the last cpu of one package when there's TDX guest Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  8:37   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 17/25] KVM: TDX: create/free TDX vcpu structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  9:15   ` Binbin Wu
2024-09-02 10:50     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 16:46   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29  5:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-29  6:41   ` Yan Zhao
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 18/25] KVM: TDX: Do TDX specific vcpu initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  8:00   ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-13 17:21     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-14  1:20       ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-15  0:47         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-09-03  5:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-09 15:01     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-10-16 17:42       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-18  2:21         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-18 14:20           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-21  8:35             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-26  1:12               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-28 14:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-03  5:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 19/25] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_get_supported_cpuid_internal() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 20/25] KVM: X86: Introduce tdx_get_kvm_supported_cpuid() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 21/25] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  2:59   ` Tao Su
2024-09-03  6:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-19  5:02   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03  7:19     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:11         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-26 14:09   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-26 17:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-27 12:19       ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-27 20:40         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-30  6:26   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-30 16:22     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 22/25] KVM: TDX: Use guest physical address to configure EPT level and GPAW Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-10  9:13   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10 10:36     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 23/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Taking guest pa into consideration when calculate tdp level Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 24/25] KVM: x86: Filter directly configurable TDX CPUID bits Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  5:02   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03  7:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 11:34   ` Chao Gao
2024-08-13 15:14     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-14  0:47       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14  1:16         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 10:46           ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 13:35             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 17:35               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14 21:22                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-13 18:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14  1:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 11:36       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 17:17         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 17:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12  7:48     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 14:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 14:45         ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2024-09-12 14:48           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 15:26             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 16:42             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-12 18:29               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 18:41                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-13  3:54                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 18:42                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-13  3:57               ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:07         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:37           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 16:38             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-15  5:20 ` [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15 23:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-16  5:18     ` Tony Lindgren

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