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From: Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jose Abreu" <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>
Cc: <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Carlos Palminha <CARLOS.PALMINHA@synopsys.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] drm: Parse HDMI 2.0 YCbCr 4:2:0 VDB and VCB
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:27:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0b5eea4-807d-f1c5-e661-502a65b5220d@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170110172141.GG31595@intel.com>

Hi Ville,


On 10-01-2017 17:21, Ville Syrjälä wrote:

[snip]

>> But we already have color_formats field in drm_display_info
>> struct, right? Shouldn't we instead create for example a helper
>> which returns the best output colorspace? According to what you
>> said it would be something like:
>>
>> if (display_info->color_formats & DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR444)
>>     return YCBCR444;
>> else if (display_info->color_formats & DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR422)
>>     return YCBCR422;
>> else if (display_info->color_formats & DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCBCR420
>> && vic_is_420)
>>     return YCBCR420;
>> else
>>     return RGB444; /* Mandatory by spec */
> Perhaps. But it would have to be more involved than that since there
> might limitations on eg. the max TMDS clock imposed by the source or
> cable/dongle which presumably might require that we pick 4:2:0 over
> 4:4:4.
>
> It would also need to account which formats are actually supported by
> the source.
>
> I guess for bpc it would be enough to just consider 8bpc in such a
> function, and then the driver can bump it up afterwards if possible.

But the max tmds clock will probably be involved in deep color
modes, as 24bpp has always a 1x factor in every YCbCr, except
4:2:0. So, the sink has a max tmds but this gets into account
when the vic list present in the EDID is built, but not
considered in deep color modes, unless the EDID is broken.

>
> As for the RGB vs. YCbCr question, I guess we should just prefer RGB444
> for now. And fall back to YCbCr 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 if necessary. And that 
> leaves YCbCr 4:4:4 unsed since it has the same requirements as RGB
> 4:4:4 and thus doesn't provide any benefit as such. We could later add
> a property to let the user choose between RGB vs. YCbCr more explicitly.
>

Hmm, I am trying to implement this but I am facing a difficulty:
how will I fallback to YCbCr? RGB is always supported and the max
tmds only enters in deep color modes. For reference here is a
simple struct i created with the different tmds character rate
factors for the different encodings (I think they are correct,
but cross check please):

#define DRM_CS_DESC(cs, f, b) \
    .colorspace = (cs), .factor_to_khz = (f), .bpc = (b)

static const struct drm_mode_colorspace_desc {
    u32 colorspace;
    u32 factor_to_khz;
    u32 bpc;
} drm_mode_colorspace_factors = { /* Ordered by descending
preference */
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444, 2000, 48) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB444, 2000, 48) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444, 1500, 36) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB444, 1500, 36) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444, 1250, 30) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB444, 1250, 30) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_RGB444, 1000, 24) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB444, 1000, 24) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB422, 1000, 24) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB422, 1000, 30) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB422, 1000, 36) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB420, 1000, 48) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB420, 750, 36) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB420, 625, 30) },
    { DRM_CS_DESC(DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB420, 500, 24) },

Notice how YCbCr 4:4:4 will never get picked: it has the same
factor of RGB 4:4:4 for every bpc. So, the sink must support RGB
4:4:4 and may support YCbCr. What I didn't check was that if it
is possible to have support for deep color YCbCr without having
support for deep color RGB 4:4:4. Do you know if this can happen?

Best regards,
Jose Miguel Abreu

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-30 16:53 Jose Abreu
2017-01-04  8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-04 10:44   ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-04 13:22 ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-04 16:15   ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-04 16:36     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-05 10:07       ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-05 11:46         ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-05 14:46           ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-10 11:16             ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-10 12:26               ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-10 15:33                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-10 15:52                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-10 17:01                     ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-10 17:21                       ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-11 10:27                         ` Jose Abreu [this message]
2017-01-11 11:36                           ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-16 13:24                             ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-16 13:57                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-01-09  5:22 ` Sharma, Shashank
2017-01-09 11:11   ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-09 12:45     ` Sharma, Shashank
2017-01-09 13:23       ` Jose Abreu
2017-01-09 13:28         ` Sharma, Shashank

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