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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Yongzhao Chen <yongzhao.derek@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ziyang Huang <hzyitc@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v3 4/5] net: dsa: qca8k: flag QCA8337 internal CPU PHYs for SmartSpeed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2026 16:48:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e18c66e9-7ba2-46c0-baf5-b4281a45755d@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260926215152.376-1-yongzhao.derek@gmail.com>

> I'm open to selecting the workaround through DT, so that it is enabled
> only on boards known to need it. What I can document at this point is
> the PHY-to-PHY connection, the reproducible boot failure and the effect
> of disabling SmartSpeed. I have not established whether the cause is
> the board's electrical design or something else.

This is tricky. I can understand not wanting to say the board design
is broken without strong evidence. But a DT property is about
hardware. Maybe word it something like ... when the hardware uses an
on board PHY-to-PHY connection, without cable, SmartSpeed has been
seen to incorrectly performed a downshift. There have not been any
reports of a traditional hardware designs, using a cable, having this
issue.

> Would that be sufficient justification for a DT property, with the
> underlying cause left open in the commit message? If so, would you
> prefer a generic PHY property to disable downshift, or a
> Qualcomm-specific property for this workaround?

Also tricky. What we don't want is other developers trying to abuse
this to turn it into a configuration option, rather than a hardware
property. So i don't think it should be a generic property. Lets make
it a qualcomm specific property. I would also put 'workaround' in the
property name, again making it clear this is not intended to be used
for configuration.

    Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-27 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-23 21:58 [RFC PATCH net-next v3 0/5] net: dsa: qca8k: add a QCA8337 CPU PHY consumer Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-23 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/5] net: dsa: pass PHY flags when connecting shared ports Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-23 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 2/5] net: dsa: qca8k: serialize CPU MAC pause during MTU changes Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-23 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 3/5] net: dsa: qca8k: support QCA8337 internal PHY CPU links Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-23 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 4/5] net: dsa: qca8k: flag QCA8337 internal CPU PHYs for SmartSpeed Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-24  2:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-24 23:48     ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-25 15:17       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-25 21:01         ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-25 21:26           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-26  8:21             ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-26 13:11               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-26 21:51                 ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-27 14:48                   ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-09-27 15:36                     ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-28  6:57                       ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-28 12:40                         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-27  8:05   ` Ziyang Huang
2026-09-27 15:35     ` Yongzhao Chen
2026-09-23 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 5/5] net: phy: qca83xx: disable SmartSpeed before resetting CPU PHYs Yongzhao Chen

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