* Re: [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch
2024-04-26 23:48 [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch Pawan Gupta
@ 2024-05-09 12:19 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-05-09 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-10 0:20 ` Dave Hansen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Leemhuis @ 2024-05-09 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pawan Gupta, Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen
Cc: linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill, antonio.gomez.iglesias,
daniel.sneddon, Linux kernel regressions list
On 27.04.24 01:48, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> As the mitigation for MDS and RFDS, CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS macro executes VERW
> instruction that is used to clear the CPU buffers before returning to user
> space. Currently, VERW is executed after the user CR3 is restored. This
> leads to vm86() to fault because VERW takes a memory operand that is not
> mapped in user page tables when vm86() syscall returns. This is an issue
> with 32-bit kernels only, as 64-bit kernels do not support vm86().
>
> Move the VERW before the CR3 switch for 32-bit kernels as a workaround.
> This is slightly less secure because there is a possibility that the data
> in the registers may be sensitive, and doesn't get cleared from CPU
> buffers. As 32-bit kernels haven't received some of the other transient
> execution mitigations, this is a reasonable trade-off to ensure that
> vm86() syscall works.
>
> Fixes: a0e2dab44d22 ("x86/entry_32: Add VERW just before userspace transition")
> Closes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218707
> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/8c77ccfd-d561-45a1-8ed5-6b75212c7a58@leemhuis.info/
> Reported-by: Robert Gill <rtgill82@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Did this fall through the cracks? Just wondering, as from here it looks
like for about two weeks now nothing happened to fix the regression
linked above. But I might have missed something.
Cioa, Thorsten
> ---
> arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S | 4 ++--
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> index d3a814efbff6..1b9c1587f06e 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> @@ -837,6 +837,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_SYSENTER_32)
> jz .Lsyscall_32_done
>
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> /* Opportunistic SYSEXIT */
>
> @@ -881,7 +882,6 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_SYSENTER_32)
> BUG_IF_WRONG_CR3 no_user_check=1
> popfl
> popl %eax
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> /*
> * Return back to the vDSO, which will pop ecx and edx.
> @@ -941,6 +941,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_INT80_32)
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
>
> restore_all_switch_stack:
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> SWITCH_TO_ENTRY_STACK
> CHECK_AND_APPLY_ESPFIX
>
> @@ -951,7 +952,6 @@ restore_all_switch_stack:
>
> /* Restore user state */
> RESTORE_REGS pop=4 # skip orig_eax/error_code
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> .Lirq_return:
> /*
> * ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE rely on IRET core serialization
>
> ---
> base-commit: 0bbac3facb5d6cc0171c45c9873a2dc96bea9680
> change-id: 20240426-fix-dosemu-vm86-dd111a01737e
>
>
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2024-04-26 23:48 [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch Pawan Gupta
2024-05-09 12:19 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
@ 2024-05-09 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-09 22:17 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-05-10 0:20 ` Dave Hansen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2024-05-09 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pawan Gupta, Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen
Cc: linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On 4/26/24 16:48, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> As the mitigation for MDS and RFDS, CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS macro executes VERW
> instruction that is used to clear the CPU buffers before returning to user
> space. Currently, VERW is executed after the user CR3 is restored. This
> leads to vm86() to fault because VERW takes a memory operand that is not
> mapped in user page tables when vm86() syscall returns. This is an issue
> with 32-bit kernels only, as 64-bit kernels do not support vm86().
entry.S has this handy comment:
/*
* Define the VERW operand that is disguised as entry code so that
* it can be referenced with KPTI enabled. This ensure VERW can be
* used late in exit-to-user path after page tables are switched.
*/
Why isn't that working?
> Move the VERW before the CR3 switch for 32-bit kernels as a workaround.
> This is slightly less secure because there is a possibility that the data
> in the registers may be sensitive, and doesn't get cleared from CPU
> buffers. As 32-bit kernels haven't received some of the other transient
> execution mitigations, this is a reasonable trade-off to ensure that
> vm86() syscall works.
>
> Fixes: a0e2dab44d22 ("x86/entry_32: Add VERW just before userspace transition")
> Closes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218707
> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/8c77ccfd-d561-45a1-8ed5-6b75212c7a58@leemhuis.info/
> Reported-by: Robert Gill <rtgill82@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> ---
> arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S | 4 ++--
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> index d3a814efbff6..1b9c1587f06e 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> @@ -837,6 +837,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_SYSENTER_32)
> jz .Lsyscall_32_done
>
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> /* Opportunistic SYSEXIT */
>
> @@ -881,7 +882,6 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_SYSENTER_32)
> BUG_IF_WRONG_CR3 no_user_check=1
> popfl
> popl %eax
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
Right now, this code basically does:
STACKLEAK_ERASE
/* Restore user registers and segments */
movl PT_EIP(%esp), %edx
...
SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
...
CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
The proposed patch is:
STACKLEAK_ERASE
+ CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
/* Restore user registers and segments */
movl PT_EIP(%esp), %edx
...
SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
...
- CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
That's a bit confusing to me. I would have expected the
CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS to go _just_ before the SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 and after
the user register restore.
Is there a reason it can't go there? I think only %eax is "live" with
kernel state at that point and it's only an entry stack pointer, so not
a secret.
> /*
> * Return back to the vDSO, which will pop ecx and edx.
> @@ -941,6 +941,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_INT80_32)
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
>
> restore_all_switch_stack:
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> SWITCH_TO_ENTRY_STACK
> CHECK_AND_APPLY_ESPFIX
>
> @@ -951,7 +952,6 @@ restore_all_switch_stack:
>
> /* Restore user state */
> RESTORE_REGS pop=4 # skip orig_eax/error_code
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> .Lirq_return:
> /*
> * ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE rely on IRET core serialization
There is a working stack here, on both sides of the CR3 switch. It's
annoying to do another push/pop which won't get patched out, but this
_could_ just do:
RESTORE_REGS pop=4
CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
pushl %eax
SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
popl %eax
right?
That would only expose the CR3 value, which isn't a secret.
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2024-05-09 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
@ 2024-05-09 22:17 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-05-10 0:04 ` Dave Hansen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Pawan Gupta @ 2024-05-09 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen
Cc: Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 09:14:01AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/26/24 16:48, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > As the mitigation for MDS and RFDS, CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS macro executes VERW
> > instruction that is used to clear the CPU buffers before returning to user
> > space. Currently, VERW is executed after the user CR3 is restored. This
> > leads to vm86() to fault because VERW takes a memory operand that is not
> > mapped in user page tables when vm86() syscall returns. This is an issue
> > with 32-bit kernels only, as 64-bit kernels do not support vm86().
>
> entry.S has this handy comment:
>
> /*
> * Define the VERW operand that is disguised as entry code so that
> * it can be referenced with KPTI enabled. This ensure VERW can be
> * used late in exit-to-user path after page tables are switched.
> */
>
> Why isn't that working?
It works in general, but not for vm86() syscall. I don't know much about
how vm86() works, but it seems to emulate 16-bit real mode with limited
memory mapped in user page table. Most likely, user page table doesn't have
a mapping for mds_ver_sel is not mapped resulting in #GP fault.
[...]
> Right now, this code basically does:
>
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
> /* Restore user registers and segments */
> movl PT_EIP(%esp), %edx
> ...
> SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
> ...
> CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> The proposed patch is:
>
> STACKLEAK_ERASE
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> /* Restore user registers and segments */
> movl PT_EIP(%esp), %edx
> ...
> SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
> ...
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> That's a bit confusing to me. I would have expected the
> CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS to go _just_ before the SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 and after
> the user register restore.
>
> Is there a reason it can't go there? I think only %eax is "live" with
> kernel state at that point and it's only an entry stack pointer, so not
> a secret.
It probably can go right before the SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3. I didn't have
32-bit setup with dosemu to experiment with. I will attach a debug patch to
the bugzilla and request the reporter to test it.
> > /*
> > * Return back to the vDSO, which will pop ecx and edx.
> > @@ -941,6 +941,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(entry_INT80_32)
> > STACKLEAK_ERASE
> >
> > restore_all_switch_stack:
> > + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> > SWITCH_TO_ENTRY_STACK
> > CHECK_AND_APPLY_ESPFIX
> >
> > @@ -951,7 +952,6 @@ restore_all_switch_stack:
> >
> > /* Restore user state */
> > RESTORE_REGS pop=4 # skip orig_eax/error_code
> > - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> > .Lirq_return:
> > /*
> > * ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE rely on IRET core serialization
>
> There is a working stack here, on both sides of the CR3 switch. It's
> annoying to do another push/pop which won't get patched out, but this
> _could_ just do:
>
> RESTORE_REGS pop=4
> CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
>
> pushl %eax
> SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3 scratch_reg=%eax
> popl %eax
>
> right?
We can probably avoid the push/pop as well, because CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS will
only clobber the ZF.
> That would only expose the CR3 value, which isn't a secret.
Right.
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* Re: [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch
2024-05-09 22:17 ` Pawan Gupta
@ 2024-05-10 0:04 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-10 0:24 ` Pawan Gupta
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2024-05-10 0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pawan Gupta
Cc: Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On 5/9/24 15:17, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> It probably can go right before the SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3. I didn't have
> 32-bit setup with dosemu to experiment with. I will attach a debug patch to
> the bugzilla and request the reporter to test it.
There's an enter_from_vm86.c in the kernel selftests. That will at
least exercise this path.
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* Re: [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch
2024-05-10 0:04 ` Dave Hansen
@ 2024-05-10 0:24 ` Pawan Gupta
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Pawan Gupta @ 2024-05-10 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen
Cc: Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 05:04:36PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 5/9/24 15:17, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > It probably can go right before the SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3. I didn't have
> > 32-bit setup with dosemu to experiment with. I will attach a debug patch to
> > the bugzilla and request the reporter to test it.
>
> There's an enter_from_vm86.c in the kernel selftests. That will at
> least exercise this path.
Yes, entry_from_vm86.c should be a good test case for this, thanks.
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* Re: [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch
2024-04-26 23:48 [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch Pawan Gupta
2024-05-09 12:19 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-05-09 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
@ 2024-05-10 0:20 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-10 1:22 ` Pawan Gupta
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2024-05-10 0:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pawan Gupta, Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen
Cc: linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On 4/26/24 16:48, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> Move the VERW before the CR3 switch for 32-bit kernels as a workaround.
I look at the 32-bit code so rarely, I seem to forget have to re-learn
this gunk every time I look at it. Take a look at RESTORE_INT_REGS. On
32-bit, we actually restore %ds:
popl %ds
So even doing this:
> + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> /* Restore user state */
> RESTORE_REGS pop=4 # skip orig_eax/error_code
> - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> .Lirq_return:
fixes the issue. Moving it above the CR3 switch also works of course,
but I don't think this has anything to do with CR3. It's just that
userspace sets a funky %ds value and CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS uses ds:.
I don't think any of the segment registers can have secrets in them, can
they? I mean, it's possible, but in practice I can't imagine.
So why not just do the CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in RESTORE_REGS but after
RESTORE_INT_REGS? You might be able to do it universally, or you could
pass in a macro argument to do it conditionally.
P.S. Can we remove 32-bit support yet? Please? :)
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* Re: [PATCH] x86/entry_32: Move CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS before CR3 switch
2024-05-10 0:20 ` Dave Hansen
@ 2024-05-10 1:22 ` Pawan Gupta
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Pawan Gupta @ 2024-05-10 1:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen
Cc: Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-kernel, x86, Robert Gill,
Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis),
antonio.gomez.iglesias, daniel.sneddon
On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 05:20:31PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/26/24 16:48, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > Move the VERW before the CR3 switch for 32-bit kernels as a workaround.
>
> I look at the 32-bit code so rarely, I seem to forget have to re-learn
> this gunk every time I look at it. Take a look at RESTORE_INT_REGS. On
> 32-bit, we actually restore %ds:
>
> popl %ds
>
> So even doing this:
>
> > + CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> > /* Restore user state */
> > RESTORE_REGS pop=4 # skip orig_eax/error_code
> > - CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS
> > .Lirq_return:
>
> fixes the issue. Moving it above the CR3 switch also works of course,
> but I don't think this has anything to do with CR3. It's just that
> userspace sets a funky %ds value and CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS uses ds:.
I will test it out, but I think you are right. VERW documentation says:
#GP(0) If a memory operand effective address is outside the CS,
DS, ES, FS, or GS segment limit.
> I don't think any of the segment registers can have secrets in them, can
> they? I mean, it's possible, but in practice I can't imagine.
I don't think so they are secrets. AFAICT, their values are build-time
constants, and can be easily deduced.
> So why not just do the CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in RESTORE_REGS but after
> RESTORE_INT_REGS? You might be able to do it universally, or you could
> pass in a macro argument to do it conditionally.
Sounds good. I will try that, possibly tomorrow.
> P.S. Can we remove 32-bit support yet? Please? :)
+1 ... or atleast the mitigations for 32-bit :)
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