From: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 11/28] KVM: x86: Add a helper to detect if FRED is enabled for a vCPU
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 13:16:30 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4faa073-9cb6-4809-bf00-c4c4f669dbd0@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60f7934b-5271-4207-b071-6240b5d36cc5@intel.com>
On 11/5/2026 4:01 AM, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> On 10/23/2026 2:21 AM, Binbin Wu wrote:
>> On 9/12/2026 5:36 AM, Sohil Mehta wrote:
>>> +/*
>>> + * It's enough to check just CR4.FRED (X86_CR4_FRED) to tell if
>>> + * a vCPU is running with FRED enabled, because:
>>> + * 1) CR4.FRED can be set to 1 only _after_ IA32_EFER.LMA = 1.
>>> + * 2) To leave IA-32e mode, CR4.FRED must be cleared first.
>>
>> It seems KVM doesn't enforce it in kvm_set_cr0() for 2).
>>
>
> I think the comment is slightly misleading. The spec doesn't directly
> enforce leaving IA-32e mode with CR4.FRED. It is just expected to be
> unreachable.
>
> 1) Based on FRED spec section 4.2 Enabling in CR4, setting CR4.FRED
> prevents compatibility mode entry while CPL = 0.
>
> 2) But leaving IA-32e can only happen when CR0.PG is cleared which can
> only be done in compatibility mode while CPL = 0.
>
Right, on bare metal, if CR4.FRED = 1, it is impossible to enter compatibility
mode while CPL = 0.
> Currently, for KVM, the CPU enforces the first one and the second one is
> enforced by kvm_set_cr0().
>
> Is the suggestion to add an explicit check in kvm_set_cr0() that
> mirrors the PCIDE one? But there isn't a fault specified by the spec for
> this case.
Had a second thought. As you mentioned below, if em_{jmp,call,ret}_far() is
triggered and CS.L is cleared on ring 0, even KVM doesn't check FRED status on
far transitions, the next VM entry would fail. So I think it's not needed
to mirror the PCIDE for FRED in kvm_set_cr0().
>
> Sean also requested negative tests for things like leaving 64-bit mode
> with FRED=1. But, I am not sure how to test this.
Maybe it can use KVM_FEP to force the instruction emulation in kvm sefltest
when force_emulation_prefix for KVM.
>
> AI tells me such a mode change can happen with emulated far transfer
> through an MMIO far pointer. "em_jmp_far(), em_call_far(), em_ret_far()
> and __load_segment_descriptor() have no FRED checks, so none of them
> raise the #GP that FRED spec 8.2 requires."
>
> Chao had brought up enhancing emulator code and making it FRED aware
> [1]. I am wondering if we should revisit it?
Without the check the next VM-entry fails the guest-state check according to
FRED spec 11.5.2.3 ("If the DPL value in the SS attributes field is 0, the L
bit in the CS attributes field (bit 13) must be 1") VS. With the check, raise
#GP instead.
Not sure about the maintainers' preference. But a check on FRED in
__load_segment_descriptor() looks simple though.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/aapnI6KN7Flal8kg@intel.com/
>
> Please let me know if I misunderstood something.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-05 5:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-11 21:36 [PATCH v10 00/28] KVM: Enable FRED support with KVM VMX Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 01/28] KVM: VMX: Enable support for secondary VM exit controls Sohil Mehta
2026-10-22 9:27 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-23 2:09 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 02/28] KVM: VMX: Initialize VM entry/exit FRED controls in vmcs_config Sohil Mehta
2026-10-22 9:48 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-23 3:10 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-10-26 5:00 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-10-27 1:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 03/28] KVM: VMX: Disable FRED if FRED consistency checks fail Sohil Mehta
2026-10-22 10:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-23 3:13 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 04/28] x86/cea: Prefix event stack names with ESTACK_ Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 5:58 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 05/28] x86/cea: Use array indexing to simplify exception stack access Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 6:07 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-27 21:15 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 06/28] x86/fred: Export this_cpu_fred_rsp() for KVM usage Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 6:49 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-28 0:44 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 07/28] KVM: VMX: Initialize VMCS FRED fields Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 7:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-29 0:13 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 08/28] KVM: VMX: Set FRED MSR intercepts Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 8:07 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-29 2:42 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 09/28] KVM: VMX: Save/restore guest FRED RSP0 Sohil Mehta
2026-09-14 7:04 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-14 16:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-15 8:43 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 10/28] KVM: VMX: Add support for saving and restoring FRED MSRs Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 8:59 ` Binbin Wu
2026-10-29 6:18 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 11/28] KVM: x86: Add a helper to detect if FRED is enabled for a vCPU Sohil Mehta
2026-10-23 9:21 ` Binbin Wu
2026-11-04 20:01 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-11-05 5:16 ` Binbin Wu [this message]
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 12/28] KVM: x86: Add a new save/restore flag for FRED metadata Sohil Mehta
2026-10-29 3:10 ` Binbin Wu
2026-11-05 1:06 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 13/28] KVM: VMX: Virtualize FRED nested exception tracking Sohil Mehta
2026-10-29 8:41 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 14/28] KVM: VMX: Virtualize FRED event_data Sohil Mehta
2026-10-29 10:55 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 15/28] KVM: x86: Include CR4.FRED in the emulator CR4 write mask Sohil Mehta
2026-10-30 6:26 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 16/28] KVM: x86: Mark CR4.FRED as not reserved Sohil Mehta
2026-10-30 6:42 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 17/28] KVM: x86: Handle CR4.FRED when emulating RSM Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 18/28] KVM: VMX: Dump FRED context in dump_vmcs() Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 19/28] KVM: x86: Advertise support for FRED Sohil Mehta
2026-11-02 7:32 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 20/28] KVM: nVMX: Enable support for secondary VM exit controls Sohil Mehta
2026-11-02 8:29 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 21/28] KVM: nVMX: Handle FRED VMCS fields in nested VMX context Sohil Mehta
2026-11-04 6:43 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 22/28] KVM: nVMX: Restrict event data VMCS fields to FRED-supported hosts Sohil Mehta
2026-11-04 6:57 ` Binbin Wu
2026-11-04 13:32 ` Chao Gao
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 23/28] KVM: nVMX: Shadow ORIGINAL_EVENT_DATA and INJECTED_EVENT_DATA fields Sohil Mehta
2026-11-04 7:10 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 24/28] KVM: nVMX: Validate FRED-related VMCS fields Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 25/28] KVM: nVMX: Enable VMX FRED controls Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 26/28] KVM: selftests: Add FRED MSRs to msrs_test Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 27/28] KVM: selftests: Add a new VM guest mode to run user level code Sohil Mehta
2026-09-11 21:36 ` [PATCH v10 28/28] KVM: selftests: Add fred exception tests Sohil Mehta
2026-09-15 6:03 ` [PATCH v10 00/28] KVM: Enable FRED support with KVM VMX Xin Li
2026-10-24 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-26 16:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-10-26 17:22 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-10-26 22:22 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-10-27 17:43 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-09-15 10:00 ` [EXTERNAL] " David Woodhouse
2026-09-24 11:14 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-09-24 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-25 12:06 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-10-28 5:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-19 20:46 ` Dave Hansen
2026-10-19 22:19 ` Sohil Mehta
2026-10-30 20:53 ` Chang S. Bae
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