From: "Francesco Pretto" <ceztko@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:33:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5ab0f710702220333k384d43b4r1bd07c64d55cbdc7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45DD37E9.7010303@shaw.ca>
2007/2/22, Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>:
>
> And yes, this is something we need to deal with. I don't think that
> disks that use contact start-stop heads care so much, but disks that use
> load-unload heads (like most laptop drives, it seems) generally quote a
> much lower cycle lifetime for "emergency unloads" caused by power loss
> than by normal unloads done while power is still applied. It's important
> enough that in some cases, like the Compaq X1000-series laptop I have,
> the BIOS appears to have a power button handler that spins down the
> drive before power-down when the power button is pressed and an ACPI OS
> isn't running. (Holding the button down when an ACPI OS is running just
> forces the power off, then you get the clunk from the drive..)
>
> Windows XP (and even as far back as Windows 98) get this right, surely
> we can do as well :-)
>
>
Yes, windows XP could handle better the power button pressed event
(causing the hd not to go to emergency parking, even when forced
shut-down, most of the times). But regarding a normal shut-down cycle,
isn't this a regression? You don't solve a regression adding a feature
(IMHO).
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2007-02-22 6:27 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-22 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
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2007-02-22 2:43 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-23 20:35 ` Francesco Pretto
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2007-03-02 23:43 ` Dan Gilliam
2007-05-04 19:12 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 20:39 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-06 18:19 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-06 18:24 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 17:32 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 20:46 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-15 6:59 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 13:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-15 13:47 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-16 5:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 9:15 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 11:41 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:48 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 0:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 3:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 3:39 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 15:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-18 7:16 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-18 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-18 18:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-17 9:14 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 12:47 ` Stephen Clark
2007-05-16 13:49 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 23:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
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2007-02-23 0:25 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-21 22:15 Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 23:55 ` Alan
2007-02-22 1:01 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-22 13:53 ` Alan
2007-02-22 15:22 ` Rolf Offermanns
2007-02-22 22:47 ` Francesco Pretto
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