From: Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: IO scheduler based IO controller V10
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:37:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e98e18940909281737q142c788dpd20b8bdc05dd0eff@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253820332-10246-1-git-send-email-vgoyal@redhat.com>
Hi Vivek,
Me, Divyesh, Fernando and Yoshikawa had a chance to have a chat with
Jens about IO controller during Linux Plumbers Conference '09. Jens
expressed his concerns about the size and complexity of the patches. I
believe that is a reasonable concern. We talked about things that
could be done to reduce the size of the patches. The requirement that
the "solution has to work with all IO schedulers" seems like a
secondary concern at this point; and it came out as one thing that can
help to reduce the size of the patch set. Another possibility is to
use a simpler scheduling algorithm e.g. weighted round robin, instead
of BFQ scheduler. BFQ indeed has great properties, but we cannot deny
the fact that it is complex to understand, and might be cumbersome to
maintain. Also, hierarchical scheduling is something that could be
unnecessary in the first set of patches, even though cgroups are
hierarchical in nature.
We are starting from a point where there is no cgroup based IO
scheduling in the kernel. And it is probably not reasonable to satisfy
all IO scheduling related requirements in one patch set. We can start
with something simple, and build on top of that. So a very simple
patch set that enables cgroup based proportional scheduling for CFQ
seems like the way to go at this point.
It would be great if we discuss our plans on the mailing list, so we
can get early feedback from everyone.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-29 0:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-24 19:25 Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 01/28] io-controller: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 02/28] io-controller: Core of the elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 03/28] io-controller: Keep a cache of recently expired queues Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 04/28] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 05/28] io-controller: Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 06/28] io-controller: Core scheduler changes to support hierarhical scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 07/28] io-controller: cgroup related changes for hierarchical group support Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 08/28] io-controller: Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 09/28] io-controller: cfq changes to use " Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 10/28] io-controller: Export disk time used and nr sectors dipatched through cgroups Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 11/28] io-controller: Debug hierarchical IO scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 12/28] io-controller: Introduce group idling Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 13/28] io-controller: Implement wait busy for io queues Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 14/28] io-controller: Keep track of late preemptions Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 15/28] io-controller: Allow CFQ specific extra preemptions Vivek Goyal
2009-09-25 6:24 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 16/28] io-controller: Wait for requests to complete from last queue before new queue is scheduled Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 17/28] io-controller: Separate out queue and data Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 18/28] io-conroller: Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 19/28] io-controller: Avoid expiring ioq for single ioq scheduler if only root group Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 20/28] io-controller: noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 21/28] io-controller: deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 22/28] io-controller: anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 23/28] io-controller: blkio_cgroup patches from Ryo to track async bios Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 24/28] io-controller: map async requests to appropriate cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 25/28] io-controller: Per cgroup request descriptor support Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 26/28] io-controller: Per io group bdi congestion interface Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 27/28] io-controller: Support per cgroup per device weights and io class Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 19:25 ` [PATCH 28/28] io-controller: debug elevator fair queuing support Vivek Goyal
2009-09-24 21:33 ` IO scheduler based IO controller V10 Andrew Morton
2009-09-25 1:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-25 1:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-25 5:29 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-25 7:09 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-25 4:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-25 5:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-25 9:07 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-25 14:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-28 7:30 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-25 15:04 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-28 7:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-08 4:42 ` More performance numbers (Was: Re: IO scheduler based IO controller V10) Vivek Goyal
2009-10-08 8:34 ` Andrea Righi
2009-10-10 19:53 ` Performance numbers with IO throttling patches " Vivek Goyal
2009-10-10 22:27 ` Andrea Righi
2009-10-11 12:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-12 21:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-17 15:18 ` Andrea Righi
2009-09-25 2:20 ` IO scheduler based IO controller V10 Ulrich Lukas
2009-09-25 20:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-26 14:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-27 6:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-27 16:42 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-27 18:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-28 4:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-28 5:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-28 17:48 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-28 18:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-30 19:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-30 20:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-30 20:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-01 7:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-01 18:58 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 6:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 8:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 8:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 9:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 9:55 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 12:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 9:28 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 14:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-02 14:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 14:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 14:56 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 15:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-02 16:01 ` jim owens
2009-10-02 17:11 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 17:25 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 17:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 17:37 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 17:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 18:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 18:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 18:26 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 18:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 18:36 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-02 18:45 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 19:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 18:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 18:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 20:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 5:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 5:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 6:31 ` tweaking IO latency [was Re: IO scheduler based IO controller V10] Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 7:24 ` IO scheduler based IO controller V10 Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 9:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 9:12 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-10-03 13:18 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 13:17 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 11:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-03 12:40 ` Do not overload dispatch queue (Was: Re: IO scheduler based IO controller V10) Vivek Goyal
2009-10-03 13:21 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 13:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-03 14:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 14:28 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 14:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 14:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 15:14 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 15:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-03 17:51 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 19:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 19:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 19:23 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 19:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-04 10:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-04 11:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-04 17:39 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-04 18:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-04 18:38 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-04 19:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-04 20:17 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-04 22:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 13:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 7:20 ` IO scheduler based IO controller V10 Ingo Molnar
2009-10-03 7:25 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-03 8:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-03 9:01 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-10-02 16:33 ` Ray Lee
2009-10-02 17:13 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 16:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 9:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-02 18:08 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 18:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 18:36 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-27 17:00 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-09-28 14:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-28 15:35 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-09-28 17:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-29 7:10 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-09-28 17:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-28 18:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-28 18:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-29 7:14 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-09-29 5:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-29 0:37 ` Nauman Rafique [this message]
2009-09-29 3:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-29 9:56 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-29 10:49 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2009-09-29 14:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-29 19:53 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-30 8:43 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-30 11:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-01 6:41 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-01 13:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 2:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 20:27 ` Munehiro Ikeda
2009-10-05 10:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-05 12:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-05 14:55 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-05 17:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-05 18:11 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-10-06 7:17 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-06 11:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-07 14:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-07 15:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-08 2:18 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-10-07 16:41 ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-08 10:22 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-30 3:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 10:55 Corrado Zoccolo
2009-10-02 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-02 12:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 15:27 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-10-02 15:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 15:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 15:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 16:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-02 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-10-02 19:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-02 22:14 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-10-02 22:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-10-03 12:43 ` Corrado Zoccolo
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