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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Cc: linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] reset: handle RESET_GPIO better to provide the fallback
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 16:26:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee8db6df-76e2-497d-8718-b0ce5affff05@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQjI1m0yYs2t1hYq@shikoro>

On 03/11/2025 16:23, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> 
>> You removed RFC and entire rationale. Your earlier commit - 690de2902dca
>> - is broken. You must not do that.
> 
> Wojciech was told to do exactly what he did. Dunno by whom, I trusted
> that after seeing the handling code in reset core. Is the required
> fallback documented somewhere?

Yes, by stable ABI document and by standard rule - we never break the users.

That commit for which I sent revert effectively breaks that rule -
affects the users.

> 
>> Broken 690de2902dca leads to this broken patchset, but that is not a
>> correct fix. You need to fix the source - revert 690de2902dca, because
>> it is obviously wrong. You MUST ave fallback to reset-gpios, that was
>> the entire concept how this driver was written.
> 
> What is the benefit of having reset-gpios handling in the reset core
> optionally and required as a fallback?

Stable ABI rules require that, it is not about "benefits". Please send
email to Linus and ask him: "can I make a change which breaks users of ABI".


> 
> What is the drawback of having this tiny driver in the core and provide

If you have squashed the patchset, instead of making this non-bisectable
mess, it would be fine. But because you made it non-bisectable and only
one part got to the kernel - ALL USERS are affected and their boards broken.

See four reports from Marek Szyprowski.


Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-03 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15 20:59 Wolfram Sang
2025-10-15 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] reset: always bail out on missing RESET_GPIO driver Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17  9:35   ` Philipp Zabel
2025-10-30 11:59   ` Philipp Zabel
2025-10-30 12:54   ` Philipp Zabel
2025-11-03 14:53     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-03 15:12       ` Wolfram Sang
2025-11-03 15:13         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-03 17:10   ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-15 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] reset: always include RESET_GPIO driver if possible Wolfram Sang
2025-10-16 13:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 14:27     ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17 10:16       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-10-17 10:48         ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17 11:09           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-10-17 11:25             ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17 17:02               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-10-22  9:07                 ` Philipp Zabel
2025-10-23  9:22                   ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-23  9:37                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-10-23 11:18                       ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-23 12:04                         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-10-23 12:51                           ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17  9:42     ` Philipp Zabel
2025-10-17  9:46       ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-17  9:35   ` Philipp Zabel
2025-10-17  9:43     ` Wolfram Sang
2025-10-16  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] reset: handle RESET_GPIO better to provide the fallback Kuninori Morimoto
2025-11-03 15:08   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-03 15:25     ` Wolfram Sang
2025-11-03 15:26       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-03 15:12 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-03 15:23   ` Wolfram Sang
2025-11-03 15:26     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-11-03 15:52       ` Wolfram Sang

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