* Re: [PATCH] mm/highmem: refuse to copy hwpoisoned folios in the !copy_mc fallbacks
2026-10-26 2:57 [PATCH] mm/highmem: refuse to copy hwpoisoned folios in the !copy_mc fallbacks Yuanhe Shu
@ 2026-10-26 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 11:21 ` Huang, Ying
2026-10-26 12:09 ` Garg, Shivank
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand (Arm) @ 2026-10-26 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yuanhe Shu, akpm
Cc: Huang, Ying, Kaitao Cheng, vbabka, ljs, liam, rppt, surenb,
mhocko, linmiaohe, nao.horiguchi, ziy, wangkefeng.wang,
tujinjiang, mgorman, chengkaitao, muchun.song, linux-mm,
linux-kernel
On 10/26/26 03:57, Yuanhe Shu wrote:
> Where copy_mc_to_kernel is defined, copy_mc_user_highpage() and
> copy_mc_highpage() stop at a hardware error during the copy, report
> the not-copied bytes and queue the source page for memory_failure().
> The !copy_mc fallbacks return 0 after a plain copy instead. With
> PG_hwpoison set while the data stays readable - software-injected
> poison (MADV_HWPOISON, the debugfs corrupt-pfn injector) or a
> transient hardware error - there is no fault to recover from: the
> copy completes, the destination folio carries no poison marker, and
> the poison is consumed silently, the same poison consumption
> commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
> THP") refused to risk on the split path.
>
> Check the source folio with folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page() in both
> fallbacks and return PAGE_SIZE, the not-copied-bytes convention of
> the real copy_mc paths, so the callers take their existing error
> paths: the COW and fork paths fail with -EHWPOISON, KSM and
> khugepaged abort, and folio_mc_copy() propagates to the migration
> core, where this composes with the separate migration-side checks.
> On archs with copy_mc this code does not compile.
>
> The check runs after the copy: a check before it would leave open
> the window between itself and the copy. A flag set before or during
> the copy is caught, whatever state the data is in. A late software
> injection cannot have corrupted the completed copy, and a synchronous
> hardware error takes an arch without copy_mc down at the access; the
> residue no flag check, before or after, can catch is corruption whose
> hardware report lands after the last check. Closing that would need
> architecture support, as discussed.
>
> The fallbacks do not queue memory_failure() on refusal: the flag is
> already set, and memory failure either knows about the page or has
> abandoned it.
There must be a way to shorten this description.
>
> Suggested-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Suggested-by: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/877bjowf9i.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA/
> ---
> include/linux/highmem.h | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/highmem.h b/include/linux/highmem.h
> index d7aac9de1c8a..f90f0c6204a4 100644
> --- a/include/linux/highmem.h
> +++ b/include/linux/highmem.h
> @@ -474,12 +474,21 @@ static inline int copy_mc_user_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from,
> unsigned long vaddr, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> {
> copy_user_highpage(to, from, vaddr, vma);
> + /*
> + * The flag can be set while the copy runs, so check after it;
> + * a flag landing later can no longer have corrupted this copy.
> + */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
> return 0;
> }
>
> static inline int copy_mc_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from)
> {
> copy_highpage(to, from);
> + /* Same reasoning as in copy_mc_user_highpage(). */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
> return 0;
> }
> #endif
As I said in the other thread, how is copying data that was already poisoned
(and might trigger another MCE) reasonable?
I can understand why you would want to maintain the second check (although I do
wonder about memory barriers ... hmmm).
--
Cheers,
David
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2026-10-26 2:57 [PATCH] mm/highmem: refuse to copy hwpoisoned folios in the !copy_mc fallbacks Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-26 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
@ 2026-10-26 11:21 ` Huang, Ying
2026-10-26 12:17 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-10-26 12:09 ` Garg, Shivank
2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Huang, Ying @ 2026-10-26 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yuanhe Shu
Cc: akpm, david, Kaitao Cheng, vbabka, ljs, liam, rppt, surenb,
mhocko, linmiaohe, nao.horiguchi, ziy, wangkefeng.wang,
tujinjiang, mgorman, chengkaitao, muchun.song, linux-mm,
linux-kernel
Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
> Where copy_mc_to_kernel is defined, copy_mc_user_highpage() and
> copy_mc_highpage() stop at a hardware error during the copy, report
> the not-copied bytes and queue the source page for memory_failure().
> The !copy_mc fallbacks return 0 after a plain copy instead. With
> PG_hwpoison set while the data stays readable - software-injected
> poison (MADV_HWPOISON, the debugfs corrupt-pfn injector) or a
> transient hardware error - there is no fault to recover from: the
> copy completes, the destination folio carries no poison marker, and
> the poison is consumed silently, the same poison consumption
> commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
> THP") refused to risk on the split path.
As far as I know, software-injected poison is used for debugging only ,
so I don't think it's that important. Hardware poison state in DDR is
sticky; that is, even a transient hardware error will cause a permanent
hardware poison state until a reset.
Therefore, the primary value of this patch should be to reduce machine
checks (and panics) during memory copies. If so, we should place the
check code before copying.
> Check the source folio with folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page() in both
> fallbacks and return PAGE_SIZE, the not-copied-bytes convention of
> the real copy_mc paths, so the callers take their existing error
> paths: the COW and fork paths fail with -EHWPOISON, KSM and
> khugepaged abort, and folio_mc_copy() propagates to the migration
> core, where this composes with the separate migration-side checks.
> On archs with copy_mc this code does not compile.
>
> The check runs after the copy: a check before it would leave open
> the window between itself and the copy. A flag set before or during
> the copy is caught, whatever state the data is in. A late software
> injection cannot have corrupted the completed copy, and a synchronous
> hardware error takes an arch without copy_mc down at the access; the
> residue no flag check, before or after, can catch is corruption whose
> hardware report lands after the last check. Closing that would need
> architecture support, as discussed.
>
> The fallbacks do not queue memory_failure() on refusal: the flag is
> already set, and memory failure either knows about the page or has
> abandoned it.
>
> Suggested-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Suggested-by: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/877bjowf9i.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA/
> ---
> include/linux/highmem.h | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/highmem.h b/include/linux/highmem.h
> index d7aac9de1c8a..f90f0c6204a4 100644
> --- a/include/linux/highmem.h
> +++ b/include/linux/highmem.h
> @@ -474,12 +474,21 @@ static inline int copy_mc_user_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from,
> unsigned long vaddr, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> {
> copy_user_highpage(to, from, vaddr, vma);
> + /*
> + * The flag can be set while the copy runs, so check after it;
> + * a flag landing later can no longer have corrupted this copy.
> + */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
Why not just use PageHWPoison()?
> return 0;
> }
>
> static inline int copy_mc_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from)
> {
> copy_highpage(to, from);
> + /* Same reasoning as in copy_mc_user_highpage(). */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
> return 0;
> }
> #endif
---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
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2026-10-26 11:21 ` Huang, Ying
@ 2026-10-26 12:17 ` Garg, Shivank
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Garg, Shivank @ 2026-10-26 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xiangzao, ying.huang
Cc: rppt, wangkefeng.wang, chengkaitao, vbabka, david, akpm,
linux-kernel, surenb, linux-mm, muchun.song, ziy, nao.horiguchi,
liam, linmiaohe, mhocko, kaitao.cheng, tujinjiang, mgorman, ljs
On Mon, 2026-10-26 at 19:21 +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
>
> > Where copy_mc_to_kernel is defined, copy_mc_user_highpage() and
> > copy_mc_highpage() stop at a hardware error during the copy, report
> > the not-copied bytes and queue the source page for memory_failure().
> > The !copy_mc fallbacks return 0 after a plain copy instead. With
> > PG_hwpoison set while the data stays readable - software-injected
> > poison (MADV_HWPOISON, the debugfs corrupt-pfn injector) or a
> > transient hardware error - there is no fault to recover from: the
> > copy completes, the destination folio carries no poison marker, and
> > the poison is consumed silently, the same poison consumption
> > commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
> > THP") refused to risk on the split path.
>
> As far as I know, software-injected poison is used for debugging only ,
> so I don't think it's that important. Hardware poison state in DDR is
> sticky; that is, even a transient hardware error will cause a permanent
> hardware poison state until a reset.
>
> Therefore, the primary value of this patch should be to reduce machine
> checks (and panics) during memory copies. If so, we should place the
> check code before copying.
>
> > Check the source folio with folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page() in both
> > fallbacks and return PAGE_SIZE, the not-copied-bytes convention of
> > the real copy_mc paths, so the callers take their existing error
> > paths: the COW and fork paths fail with -EHWPOISON, KSM and
> > khugepaged abort, and folio_mc_copy() propagates to the migration
> > core, where this composes with the separate migration-side checks.
> > On archs with copy_mc this code does not compile.
> >
> > The check runs after the copy: a check before it would leave open
> > the window between itself and the copy. A flag set before or during
> > the copy is caught, whatever state the data is in. A late software
> > injection cannot have corrupted the completed copy, and a synchronous
> > hardware error takes an arch without copy_mc down at the access; the
> > residue no flag check, before or after, can catch is corruption whose
> > hardware report lands after the last check. Closing that would need
> > architecture support, as discussed.
> >
> > The fallbacks do not queue memory_failure() on refusal: the flag is
> > already set, and memory failure either knows about the page or has
> > abandoned it.
> >
> > Suggested-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
> > Suggested-by: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
> > Assisted-by: LLM
> > Signed-off-by: Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/877bjowf9i.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA/
> > ---
> > include/linux/highmem.h | 9 +++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/highmem.h b/include/linux/highmem.h
> > index d7aac9de1c8a..f90f0c6204a4 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/highmem.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/highmem.h
> > @@ -474,12 +474,21 @@ static inline int copy_mc_user_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from,
> > unsigned long vaddr, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > {
> > copy_user_highpage(to, from, vaddr, vma);
> > + /*
> > + * The flag can be set while the copy runs, so check after it;
> > + * a flag landing later can no longer have corrupted this copy.
> > + */
> > + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> > + return PAGE_SIZE;
>
> Why not just use PageHWPoison()?
This will miss out on hugetlb folios I think. is_page_hwpoison() is more
appropriate as it covers hugetlb cases as well.
Thanks,
Shivank
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* Re: [PATCH] mm/highmem: refuse to copy hwpoisoned folios in the !copy_mc fallbacks
2026-10-26 2:57 [PATCH] mm/highmem: refuse to copy hwpoisoned folios in the !copy_mc fallbacks Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-26 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 11:21 ` Huang, Ying
@ 2026-10-26 12:09 ` Garg, Shivank
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Garg, Shivank @ 2026-10-26 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: david, xiangzao, akpm
Cc: rppt, wangkefeng.wang, chengkaitao, vbabka, ying.huang,
linux-kernel, surenb, linux-mm, muchun.song, ziy, nao.horiguchi,
liam, linmiaohe, mhocko, ljs, tujinjiang, kaitao.cheng, mgorman
On Mon, 2026-10-26 at 10:57 +0800, Yuanhe Shu wrote:
> Where copy_mc_to_kernel is defined, copy_mc_user_highpage() and
> copy_mc_highpage() stop at a hardware error during the copy, report
> the not-copied bytes and queue the source page for memory_failure().
> The !copy_mc fallbacks return 0 after a plain copy instead. With
> PG_hwpoison set while the data stays readable - software-injected
> poison (MADV_HWPOISON, the debugfs corrupt-pfn injector) or a
> transient hardware error - there is no fault to recover from: the
> copy completes, the destination folio carries no poison marker, and
> the poison is consumed silently, the same poison consumption
> commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
> THP") refused to risk on the split path.
>
> Check the source folio with folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page() in both
> fallbacks and return PAGE_SIZE, the not-copied-bytes convention of
> the real copy_mc paths, so the callers take their existing error
> paths: the COW and fork paths fail with -EHWPOISON, KSM and
> khugepaged abort, and folio_mc_copy() propagates to the migration
> core, where this composes with the separate migration-side checks.
> On archs with copy_mc this code does not compile.
>
> The check runs after the copy: a check before it would leave open
> the window between itself and the copy. A flag set before or during
> the copy is caught, whatever state the data is in. A late software
> injection cannot have corrupted the completed copy, and a synchronous
> hardware error takes an arch without copy_mc down at the access; the
> residue no flag check, before or after, can catch is corruption whose
> hardware report lands after the last check. Closing that would need
> architecture support, as discussed.
>
> The fallbacks do not queue memory_failure() on refusal: the flag is
> already set, and memory failure either knows about the page or has
> abandoned it.
>
> Suggested-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Suggested-by: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/877bjowf9i.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA/
> ---
> include/linux/highmem.h | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/highmem.h b/include/linux/highmem.h
> index d7aac9de1c8a..f90f0c6204a4 100644
> --- a/include/linux/highmem.h
> +++ b/include/linux/highmem.h
> @@ -474,12 +474,21 @@ static inline int copy_mc_user_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from,
> unsigned long vaddr, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> {
> copy_user_highpage(to, from, vaddr, vma);
> + /*
> + * The flag can be set while the copy runs, so check after it;
> + * a flag landing later can no longer have corrupted this copy.
> + */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
> return 0;
> }
>
> static inline int copy_mc_highpage(struct page *to, struct page *from)
> {
> copy_highpage(to, from);
> + /* Same reasoning as in copy_mc_user_highpage(). */
> + if (folio_contain_hwpoisoned_page(page_folio(from)))
> + return PAGE_SIZE;
> return 0;
> }
> #endif
Should we use is_page_hwpoison() instead? It looks simpler and more
reliable. memory_failure() sets the page flag first and the folio flag
later, so there is a race when folio check can say "okay" but page flag
check says "poisoned".
Thanks,
Shivank
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