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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <kch@nvidia.com>,
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	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Joerg Roedel (AMD)" <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	Tushar Dave <tdave@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/18] RDMA/mlx5: Ask P2PDMA whether ATS takes a direct peer-to-peer route
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 16:00:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3708893-4760-4157-83a3-313867a94e78@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <321890690ce83d1943b2f678bd9bee9b8c895b66.camel@linux.intel.com>

On 9/17/26 15:56, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Mon, 2026-09-14 at 14:22 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>> From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
>>
>> mlx5_umem_needs_ats() enables ATS for any dma-buf whose caller asked
>> for
>> Relaxed Ordering, on the assumption that a switch in the path has CR,
>> RR
>> and DT all set. It also enables it for a buffer already mapped with
>> the
>> peer's bus addresses, which are not translatable at all.
>>
>> P2PDMA has read the ACS controls, so ask it through
>> dma_buf_p2pdma_map_type(): enable ATS only where the path is not
>> routed
>> directly as it stands, but would be for a Translated Request whose
>> Completions carry Relaxed Ordering. Exporters that name no provider
>> keep
>> the old assumption, since their ACS settings remain hidden.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
>> ---
>>  drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h | 36 ++------------------------
>> ------
>>  drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mr.c      | 40
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h
>> b/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h
>> index e9ddf2e97a76..ab32742b2180 100644
>> --- a/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h
>> +++ b/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h
>> @@ -1646,40 +1646,8 @@ static inline bool rt_supported(int ts_cap)
>>  	       ts_cap ==
>> MLX5_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT_CAP_FREE_RUNNING_AND_REAL_TIME;
>>  }
>>  
>> -/*
>> - * PCI Peer to Peer is a trainwreck. If no switch is present then
>> things
>> - * sometimes work, depending on the pci_distance_p2p logic for
>> excluding broken
>> - * root complexes. However if a switch is present in the path, then
>> things get
>> - * really ugly depending on how the switch is setup. This table
>> assumes that the
>> - * root complex is strict and is validating that all req/reps are
>> matches
>> - * perfectly - so any scenario where it sees only half the
>> transaction is a
>> - * failure.
>> - *
>> - * CR/RR/DT  ATS RO P2P
>> - * 00X       X   X  OK
>> - * 010       X   X  fails (request is routed to root but root never
>> sees comp)
>> - * 011       0   X  fails (request is routed to root but root never
>> sees comp)
>> - * 011       1   X  OK
>> - * 10X       X   1  OK
>> - * 101       X   0  fails (completion is routed to root but root
>> didn't see req)
>> - * 110       X   0  SLOW
>> - * 111       0   0  SLOW
>> - * 111       1   0  fails (completion is routed to root but root
>> didn't see req)
>> - * 111       1   1  OK
>> - *
>> - * Unfortunately we cannot reliably know if a switch is present or
>> what the
>> - * CR/RR/DT ACS settings are, as in a VM that is all hidden. Assume
>> that
>> - * CR/RR/DT is 111 if the ATS cap is enabled and follow the last
>> three rows.
>> - *
>> - * For now assume if the umem is a dma_buf then it is P2P.
>> - */
>> -static inline bool mlx5_umem_needs_ats(struct mlx5_ib_dev *dev,
>> -				       struct ib_umem *umem, int
>> access_flags)
>> -{
>> -	if (!MLX5_CAP_GEN(dev->mdev, ats) || !umem->is_dmabuf)
>> -		return false;
>> -	return access_flags & IB_ACCESS_RELAXED_ORDERING;
>> -}
>> +bool mlx5_umem_needs_ats(struct mlx5_ib_dev *dev, struct ib_umem
>> *umem,
>> +			 int access_flags);
>>  
>>  int set_roce_addr(struct mlx5_ib_dev *dev, u32 port_num,
>>  		  unsigned int index, const union ib_gid *gid,
>> diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mr.c
>> b/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mr.c
>> index 00e13028762a..286f372e5b0c 100644
>> --- a/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mr.c
>> +++ b/drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mr.c
>> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
>>  #include <linux/export.h>
>>  #include <linux/delay.h>
>>  #include <linux/dma-buf.h>
>> +#include <linux/dma-buf-mapping.h>
>>  #include <linux/dma-resv.h>
>>  #include <rdma/frmr_pools.h>
>>  #include <rdma/ib_umem_odp.h>
>> @@ -47,6 +48,45 @@
>>  #include "data_direct.h"
>>  #include "dmah.h"
>>  
>> +MODULE_IMPORT_NS("DMA_BUF");
>> +
>> +bool mlx5_umem_needs_ats(struct mlx5_ib_dev *dev, struct ib_umem
>> *umem,
>> +			 int access_flags)
>> +{
>> +	struct dma_buf_attachment *attach;
>> +
>> +	if (!MLX5_CAP_GEN(dev->mdev, ats) || !umem->is_dmabuf)
>> +		return false;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * The Completer decides whether its Completions carry
>> Relaxed
>> +	 * Ordering, and only a Request that asked for it can expect
>> them to.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (!(access_flags & IB_ACCESS_RELAXED_ORDERING))
>> +		return false;
>> +
>> +	attach = to_ib_umem_dmabuf(umem)->attach;
>> +	switch (dma_buf_p2pdma_map_type(attach, 0)) {
>> +	case PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_NONE:
>> +		/* Nothing is known about the route, so fall back to
>> the bet. */
>> +		return true;
>> +	case PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_BUS_ADDR:
>> +		/*
>> +		 * The path is routed directly already and is
>> programmed with
>> +		 * the peer's bus addresses. Those are not
>> translatable, so
>> +		 * ATS would be wrong as well as pointless.
>> +		 */
>> +		return false;
>> +	default:
>> +		break;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	return dma_buf_p2pdma_map_type(attach,
>> +				       PCI_P2PDMA_TLP_TRANSLATED |
>> +					      
>> PCI_P2PDMA_TLP_RELAXED_CPL) ==
>> +	       PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_BUS_ADDR;
>> +}
>> +
> 
> It looks like this works well when the device can choose whether to
> enable ATS per transaction. 
> 
> However, at least for the Intel GPUs, ATS enablement is based on the
> PCIe-side enable bit.

Yeah, I can confirm as well that this is something really exotic.

I never heard of any other device who can enable/disable ATS on a transaction basis.

Additional to that the setup that ACS seems to be disabled for some bridges bit not all also sounds extremely uncommon.

> This means that if p2pdma tells the dma-mapping layer to give an Xe
> device a bus address rather than an IOVA, things break, while
> pci_p2pdma_distance says everything is OK.
> 
> It looks like the infrastructure and solution added in this series is
> targeted at fixing this on the device side by conditionally enabling
> ATS. However I think we need to look also at having the computed
> routing assume untranslated transactions using IOVA rather than bus
> address.
> 
> That is, a flag to tell the topology check that some transactions
> *will* take the host-bridge path due to IOVA being used, and that the
> computations including pci_p2pdma_distance() need to check whether that
> is possible (checking whitelist etc.) and return the corresponding
> THRU_HOST_BRIDGE mapping type. Translated transactions taking a short-
> cut using the bus-address would then be hidden from the driver.
> 
> Whether that is best done as a parameter to these functions or perhaps
> as a flag in the PCI device, I'm not sure.

That sounds totally reasonable to me as well.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Thanks,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>  static int mkey_max_umr_order(struct mlx5_ib_dev *dev)
>>  {
>>  	if (MLX5_CAP_GEN(dev->mdev,
>> umr_extended_translation_offset))


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 11:22 [PATCH v6 00/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route peer-to-peer DMA by TLP class Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 01/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document pdev->p2pdma lifetime rules Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 18:25   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-19  4:39     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 02/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document the TLP attribute assumptions Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 03/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Derive routing from directional ACS controls Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 19:39   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 04/18] PCI: Reject unreadable ACS controls in isolation checks Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 19:59   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 05/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Evaluate ACS controls at the path divergence Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 20:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 06/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document directional ACS routing Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 20:53   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 07/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Collect the path's ACS controls before deciding Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 21:11   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 08/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Answer routing per TLP class Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 21:55   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 09/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route Relaxed Ordering Completions directly Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 22:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 10/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Reject Translated Requests blocked by Translation Blocking Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 11/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route Translated Requests under Direct Translated P2P Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 12/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Log detailed ACS routing diagnostics Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 13/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Add KUnit tests for the ACS routing decisions Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 14/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Test the ACS P2P routing walk Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 15/18] PCI: Add KUnit coverage for ACS isolation checks Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 16/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document TLP-class routing Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 17/18] dma-buf: Let importers ask how peer-to-peer traffic is routed Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 14:27   ` Christian König
2026-09-14 22:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-15  6:28       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-15  6:23     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 18/18] RDMA/mlx5: Ask P2PDMA whether ATS takes a direct peer-to-peer route Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-17 13:56   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-17 14:00     ` Christian König [this message]
2026-09-17 14:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:16       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-17 15:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-18 12:15     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 13:42       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-18 17:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-19 11:25           ` Leon Romanovsky

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