From: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: "Oliver Neukum" <oliver@neukum.org>,
"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
"pm list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Nigel Cunningham" <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
"mark gross" <mgross@linux.intel.com>,
"Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@ti.com>,
"Uli Luckas" <u.luckas@road.de>,
"Igor Stoppa" <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>,
"Brian Swetland" <swetland@google.com>,
"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:08:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f73f7ab80902161208h12837d4ex1d28d55d031d5d71@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090216093108.078aac35@infradead.org>
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:48:06 +0100 Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> wrote:
>> Should there be a channel through which drivers can tell user space
>> what the consequences in terms of reaching a sleep state are if a
>> service is requested?
>
> Personally, I don't think so.
> Think about it: what would userspace do?
> Not ask for the functionality if it means no sleep state?
> Maybe it should just never ask for it then as a required functionality!
Userspace may not have a useful decision-making capability regarding
functionality versus power-saving, but the user it's talking to might!
I think it would be very useful to have a mechanism for userspace to
find out "Link detection on this NIC costs ~50mW" and "No link has
been detected for the last 15 minutes", so that it can compile all
that sort of information and prompt the user what devices they would
like to disable. Perhaps an "airline mode" sort of thing?
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-16 20:08 UTC|newest]
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2009-02-15 23:10 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 0:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 2:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-16 2:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-16 3:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 7:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 16:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 17:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 20:08 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2009-02-16 20:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 20:39 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 20:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 21:32 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-16 21:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:36 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-16 22:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 23:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 10:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-17 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2009-02-17 14:20 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-17 14:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-17 14:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 14:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 15:32 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 0:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 0:18 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 5:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 0:52 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 5:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 5:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 15:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-18 15:20 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-17 14:58 ` Igor Stoppa
2009-02-17 15:28 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-18 0:55 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 2:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18 17:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-18 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-18 18:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-18 22:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-01 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 10:00 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-18 0:45 ` mark gross
2009-02-20 5:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 15:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-20 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-20 18:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-20 20:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 22:43 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-16 23:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 3:09 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 4:46 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 22:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 22:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 23:31 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 12:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 14:59 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 21:56 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-19 22:08 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 22:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 10:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 22:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-21 1:59 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 2:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 11:26 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 15:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 16:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-02-20 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:03 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 1:08 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-21 9:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 10:32 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-21 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 23:13 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-23 23:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 0:02 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 10:12 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 10:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 14:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-27 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 22:09 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 22:56 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-28 3:04 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-28 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-28 21:57 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-28 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-28 23:38 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-01 23:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-02 23:48 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-03 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 23:38 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-04 0:49 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 0:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-01 6:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-01 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-01 9:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 1:22 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-03 13:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-04 0:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-04 0:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 23:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-03 13:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-03 23:51 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 23:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-21 9:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-21 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 10:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 14:46 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-27 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 14:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-23 14:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-27 10:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 15:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-03-05 16:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 17:09 ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-27 20:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-05 13:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-02 8:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-03-02 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-02 15:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 18:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 6:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-02-16 15:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 7:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 22:40 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 22:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 2:43 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 2:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 3:26 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 23:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 2:56 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 8:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 14:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 15:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 15:10 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-18 15:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 16:39 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-18 17:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 22:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 22:58 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-16 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:14 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-17 14:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 21:57 ` mark gross
2009-02-17 22:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 22:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-17 23:28 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 0:34 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 17:30 ` Chris Ball
2009-02-16 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 13:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-18 0:27 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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