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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Matt Evans <matt@ozlabs.org>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
	"Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
	"Longfang Liu" <liulongfang@huawei.com>,
	"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 9/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:45:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa5c7fd5-f24a-4ca1-89c3-9ccd9a728fb4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260921132208.GA1507824@nvidia.com>

On 9/21/26 15:22, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 02:08:47PM +0100, Matt Evans wrote:
> 
>> Not quite; the priv->revoked flag tracks temporary periods of
>> inaccessibility.  An example is VFIO resetting a function; the BAR
>> mappings as seen by the CPU and DMABUFs made from the BARs are all made
>> inaccessible before the reset, and made accessible again after the
>> reset.
> 
> From the importer perspective this is a permanent revoke.

Yes, exactly that.

> The right way to view this flow is VFIO permanently revokes the DMABUF
> FD. Then instead of forcing a new FD to be obtained it replaces the
> existing FD with a working one.

Well that is a little bit problematic. It could result in a race when you have multiple importers.

> From an importer perspective it sees the revoke happen and then that's
> it, the dmabuf never does anything further. The importer has to unmap
> and start from scratch, get a FD and map it.

It could also be possible to wait for the reset to finish before giving out a new mapping.

> That VFIO re-used the FD to make a new live export isn't visible to
> the importer at all.
> 
> I think that is where this "temporary revoke" language gets confusing.
> 
> Call it "VFIO reuses the FD to create a new live mapping" is clearer
> than calling it "temporarily revoke" which sounds too much like move.

I would avoid that and just re-create the DMA-buf fd from scratch. The extra overhead is negligible and one way state transmissions are usually much easier to handle.

Christian.

> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-11 21:41 [PATCH v6 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] vfio/pci: Remove DMABUF export dependency on vdev->memory_lock Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] vfio/pci: Un-revoke DMABUFs in LOW_POWER_ENTRY_WITH_WAKEUP resume Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] dma-buf: Export dma_buf_set_name() Matt Evans
2026-09-14 11:06   ` Christian König
2026-09-15 13:35     ` Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-09-15 12:16   ` liulongfang
2026-09-21 13:24     ` Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-09-13 16:52   ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:54       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 12:06           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 12:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 12:13         ` Matt Evans
2026-09-15  7:20           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-15 11:13             ` Christian König
2026-09-15 14:22               ` Matt Evans
2026-09-16 14:19                 ` Christian König
2026-09-21 13:08                   ` Matt Evans
2026-09-21 13:22                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-21 13:45                       ` Christian König [this message]
2026-09-21 13:49                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-21 14:09                           ` Christian König
2026-09-15 12:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-15 14:30             ` Matt Evans

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