From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Matt Evans <matt@ozlabs.org>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
"Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 9/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:45:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa5c7fd5-f24a-4ca1-89c3-9ccd9a728fb4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260921132208.GA1507824@nvidia.com>
On 9/21/26 15:22, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 02:08:47PM +0100, Matt Evans wrote:
>
>> Not quite; the priv->revoked flag tracks temporary periods of
>> inaccessibility. An example is VFIO resetting a function; the BAR
>> mappings as seen by the CPU and DMABUFs made from the BARs are all made
>> inaccessible before the reset, and made accessible again after the
>> reset.
>
> From the importer perspective this is a permanent revoke.
Yes, exactly that.
> The right way to view this flow is VFIO permanently revokes the DMABUF
> FD. Then instead of forcing a new FD to be obtained it replaces the
> existing FD with a working one.
Well that is a little bit problematic. It could result in a race when you have multiple importers.
> From an importer perspective it sees the revoke happen and then that's
> it, the dmabuf never does anything further. The importer has to unmap
> and start from scratch, get a FD and map it.
It could also be possible to wait for the reset to finish before giving out a new mapping.
> That VFIO re-used the FD to make a new live export isn't visible to
> the importer at all.
>
> I think that is where this "temporary revoke" language gets confusing.
>
> Call it "VFIO reuses the FD to create a new live mapping" is clearer
> than calling it "temporarily revoke" which sounds too much like move.
I would avoid that and just re-create the DMA-buf fd from scratch. The extra overhead is negligible and one way state transmissions are usually much easier to handle.
Christian.
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-21 13:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-11 21:41 [PATCH v6 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] vfio/pci: Remove DMABUF export dependency on vdev->memory_lock Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] vfio/pci: Un-revoke DMABUFs in LOW_POWER_ENTRY_WITH_WAKEUP resume Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] dma-buf: Export dma_buf_set_name() Matt Evans
2026-09-14 11:06 ` Christian König
2026-09-15 13:35 ` Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-09-15 12:16 ` liulongfang
2026-09-21 13:24 ` Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-09-11 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-09-13 16:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:54 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 12:06 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 12:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 12:13 ` Matt Evans
2026-09-15 7:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-15 11:13 ` Christian König
2026-09-15 14:22 ` Matt Evans
2026-09-16 14:19 ` Christian König
2026-09-21 13:08 ` Matt Evans
2026-09-21 13:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-21 13:45 ` Christian König [this message]
2026-09-21 13:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-21 14:09 ` Christian König
2026-09-15 12:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-15 14:30 ` Matt Evans
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