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From: Nitin Rawat <quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: <vkoul@kernel.org>, <kishon@kernel.org>, <mani@kernel.org>,
	<conor+dt@kernel.org>, <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	<andersson@kernel.org>, <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	<dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>, <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	<krzk+dt@kernel.org>, <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-phy@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 4/4] phy: qcom-qmp-ufs: read max-microamp values from device tree
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 23:39:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <faadad49-9fa6-4f76-9162-d6f19974ad49@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c7f8cfc-2090-449e-b6ec-688a0021bac4@oss.qualcomm.com>



On 8/7/2025 11:13 PM, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 8/7/25 7:26 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 09:12:53PM +0530, Nitin Rawat wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2025 7:14 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
>>
>>>>> The intended use is to set the load requirement and then only en/disable
>>>>> the consumer, so that the current load is updated in core (like in the
>>>>> kerneldoc of _regulator_handle_consumer_enable())
>>
>>>>> My question was about moving the custom parsing of
>>>>> $supplyname-max-micromap introduced in this patch into the regulator
>>>>> core, as this seems like a rather common problem.
>>
>>>> Wait, is this supposed to be some new property that you want to
>>>> standardise?  I didn't see a proposal for that, it's not something that
>>>> currently exists - the only standard properties that currently exist are
>>>> for the regulator as a whole.
>>
>>> The UFS QMP PHY driver is not the first client to use regulator_set_load or
>>> alternatively set load requirements and invoke enable/disable or
>>> alternatively
>>
>> The issue isn't using regulator_set_load(), that's perfectly fine and
>> expected.  The issue is either reading the value to use from the
>> constraint information (which is just buggy) or adding a generic
>> property for this (which I'm not convinced is a good idea, I'd expect a
>> large propoprtion of drivers should just know what their requirements
>> are and that a generic property would just get abused).
>>
>>> These drivers also define corresponding binding properties, as seen in the
>>> UFS instances documented here:
>>
>>> UFS Common DT Binding ((link - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ufs/ufs-common.yaml?h=next-20250807)
>>
>> Note that that's specifying OPPs which is different...
> 
> The microamp properties are in the top-level, not under OPP if
> that's what you meant

Thanks for pointing that out, Konrad


> 
> Or are you perhaps suggesting that any device requiring explicit
> current requirement settings, should do so through an OPP table
> (perhaps a degenerated one with just a single entry detailling
> the single requirement most of the time)?
> 
>>> There was a previous effort to introduce similar properties
>>> (vdda-phy-max-microamp and vdda-pll-max-microamp) in the device tree
>>> bindings.
>>> Link - (link- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-msm/patch/20220418205509.1102109-3-bhupesh.sharma@linaro.org/#24820481)
>>
>> That patch also fails to supply any rationale for making this board
>> specific or generally putting them in the DT, AFAICT it's one of these
>> things just pulled out of the vendor tree without really thinking about
>> it.  The changelog just says the properties are in downstream DTs.
>>
>>> Currently, the regulator framework does support automatic aggregation of
>>> load requests from multiple client drivers. Therefore, it is reasonable and
>>> necessary for each client to individually communicate its expected runtime
>>> load to the regulator framework to put the regulators in current
>>> operation mode.
>>
>> That doesn't mean that it's a good idea to put that information in the
>> DT, nor if it is sensible to put in DT does it mean that it's a good
>> idea to define a generic property that applies to all regulator
>> consumers which is what I now think Konrad is proposing.
> 
> Yeah, that's what I had in mind
> 
> I was never able to get a reliable source for those numbers myselfe
> either.. At least some of them are prooooobably? chosen based on the
> used regulator type, to ensure it's always in HPM..
> 
> That said, our drivers cover a wide variety of hardware, built on a
> wide variety of process nodes, with different configurations, etc.,
> so it's either polluting the DT, or polluting the driver with
> per-compatible hardcoded data (and additional compatibles because
> fallbacks wouldn't work most of the time)

I missed to read this before replying to my last reply.
Thanks for the explaining this. I too had mention similar thing in reply 
to mark's query in my last reply.



> 
> Konrad


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-07 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-06 15:43 [PATCH V1 0/4] Add support to configure regulator load for UFS QMP PHY Nitin Rawat
2025-08-06 15:43 ` [PATCH V1 1/4] dt-bindings: phy: Add max-microamp properties for PHY and PLL supplies Nitin Rawat
2025-08-08  7:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-11 15:20   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-08-06 15:43 ` [PATCH V1 2/4] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8750: add max-microamp for UFS " Nitin Rawat
2025-08-08  7:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-08  8:58     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-08  9:39       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-08 15:19         ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-09 11:07           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-08-11 19:55             ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-12 10:52               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-12 11:38                 ` 回复: " yizhijiao2025
2025-08-13 20:47                 ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-11 15:25   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-08-06 15:43 ` [PATCH V1 3/4] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8650: " Nitin Rawat
2025-08-06 15:43 ` [PATCH V1 4/4] phy: qcom-qmp-ufs: read max-microamp values from device tree Nitin Rawat
2025-08-06 15:58   ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-06 16:51     ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 13:06       ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-07 13:44         ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 15:42           ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-07 17:26             ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 17:35               ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-07 17:43                 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 17:56                   ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-07 18:45                     ` Mark Brown
2025-08-07 20:45                       ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-08  7:25                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-07 17:43               ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-07 18:09                 ` Nitin Rawat [this message]
2025-08-07 19:09                 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-11 15:50                   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-08-11 16:14                     ` Mark Brown
2025-08-11 19:48                     ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-13 21:01                       ` Nitin Rawat
2025-08-08 12:33   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-08-09  7:30   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-11 19:49     ` Nitin Rawat

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