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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: TINSAE TADESSE <tinsaetadesse2015@gmail.com>
Cc: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
	"linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] hwmon: spd5118: Do not fail resume on temporary I2C errors
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 17:25:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb688a65-b2cd-4223-ae04-130b5657712d@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ12PfM5xf0+Qy07S5OoLPkpnhZz+bj5a+hTSGTfrEFN2R6PCw@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/31/26 11:50, TINSAE TADESSE wrote:
...
> 
> Hi Guenter,
> 
> While investigating this issue, I previously mentioned
> about a flow where SPD write disabled state can be
> exported as a capability from the i801 controller, so
> that the SPD5118 hwmon driver consumes it.
> 
> The SPD write disabled state is known to the controller
> driver (i2c-i801), but this information is not
> propagated to client drivers. As a result, auto-detected
> devices may be instantiated and probed even though the
> controller cannot support the required access model.
> 
> This raises a major architectural question:
> 
> Should SMBus / I2C controller drivers be able to
> advertise bus-level capability constraints (such as SPD
> write disabled state) to client drivers, so that clients can
> make an informed decision during probe?
> 
> A capability-based approach would allow:
> * controller drivers to expose what is possible on a given bus
> * client drivers to decide whether they can operate correctly
> * avoidance of device-specific policy in controller drivers
> * consistent handling across different SPD-capable devices
> 
> I actually tested the possibility of detecting, propagating,
> and consuming the SPD write disabled state using an I2C
> adapter capability flag. Using this approach, I was able to
> fix the issue even with the CONFIG_SENSORS_SPD5118_DETECT
> kernel configuration enabled.
> 
> At this stage, I am not proposing a specific implementation.
> The goal of this RFC is to get agreement on whether this type
> of problem should be solved through capability propagation,
> and if so, what mechanism would be preferred.
> 
> Any feedback on design direction, or existing infrastructure
> that could be reused would be very welcome.
> 

I think it is a good idea, but how would the flag look like ?
The i801 controller only write protects a range of addresses;
I think it is 0x50..0x57. So any I2C_FUNC flag would presumably
have to be address range specific. You could try adding
something like I2C_FUNC_SPD_WRITE_PROTECTED. Either case,
you'll have to ask the I2C subsystem maintainers for advice.
I would suggest to give it a try.

Thanks,
Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-01  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-10 17:19 Tinsae Tadesse
2026-01-10 17:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: spd5118: Retry temperature reads after " Tinsae Tadesse
2026-01-12 16:35   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-10 17:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] hwmon: spd5118: Avoid hardware access during suspend and resume Tinsae Tadesse
2026-01-12 14:42   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-10 22:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] hwmon: spd5118: Do not fail resume on temporary I2C errors Armin Wolf
2026-01-12 11:48   ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-12 17:41     ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-12 18:07       ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-12 14:37   ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-12 16:36   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-12 17:46     ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-12 18:17       ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-12 18:22         ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-12 19:11           ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-13 19:33             ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-13 19:16           ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-13 23:58             ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-12 16:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-13 19:15   ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-13 23:46     ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]       ` <CAJ12PfP+Dbxd5fFAx-zAaJQ0B53Z1nXAiPbkmivk6smKajf1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2026-01-14 14:23         ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-15 13:50           ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-16  6:24             ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-24 14:45               ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-24 19:11                 ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-25 22:36                   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-26  9:40                     ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-26 15:20                       ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-27 10:35                     ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-27 14:33                       ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-27 19:23                         ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-27 23:41                           ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-31  0:55                             ` Kurt Borja
2026-01-31  1:21                               ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-31  1:54                                 ` Kurt Borja
2026-01-31  2:06                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2026-01-31  9:22                                     ` Armin Wolf
2026-01-31 11:26                             ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-31 19:50                       ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-02-01  1:25                         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2026-02-01  7:30                           ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-02-01 15:21                             ` Guenter Roeck
2026-02-02  7:03                               ` TINSAE TADESSE
2026-01-27 10:30                   ` TINSAE TADESSE

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