From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: seanjc@google.com, x86@kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] x86/fpu: Clear XSTATE_BV[i] in save state whenever XFD[i]=1
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 19:26:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcd329da-b24a-484b-85df-c3e1c2616a53@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f130ac18-708a-4074-b031-9599006786d3@intel.com>
On 1/15/26 19:19, Dave Hansen wrote:
> Is there anything preventing the kernel_fpu_begin() interrupt from
> happening a little later, say:
>
> XFD[18]=0
> ...
> XFD[18]=1
> # Interrupt (that does XSAVE)
> XRSTOR (no #NM)
>
> In that case, the XSAVE in kernel_fpu_begin() "operates as if XINUSE[i]
> = 0" and would set XFEATURES[18]=0; it would save the component as being
> in its init state. The later XRSTOR would obviously restore state 18 to
> its init state.
Yes, absolutely, and the fact that the race window is so small is why
this issue stayed undetected for years. In fact, consider that XFD
becomes a pass-through MSR after the first write, at which point there's
on race window at all---XFD[18] will be 1 if that's the guest value and
the state will be destroyed.
I only mentioned SMIs as a way for this to happen on bare metal, i.e.
without KVM involvement at all (though for dual-monitor treatment
virtualization _is_ involved).
> That's a long-winded way of saying I think I agree with the patch. It
> destroys the state a bit more aggressively but it doesn't do anything _new_.
Thanks. :)
> What would folks think about making the SDM language stronger, or at
> least explicitly adding the language that setting XFD[i]=1 can lead to
> XINUSE[i] going from 1=>0. Kinda like the language that's already in
> "XRSTOR and the Init and Modified Optimizations", but specific to XFD:
>
> If XFD[i] = 1 and XINUSE[i] = 1, state component i may be
> tracked as init; XINUSE[i] may be set to 0.
>
> That would make it consistent with the KVM behavior. It might also give
> the CPU folks some additional wiggle room for new behavior.
Yes, absolutely. I think any other hypervisor may want to do the same,
to avoid save/restores of tile data to when guest XFD[18]=1 (and to
avoid unnecessary clearing of XFD, just for the sake of storing tile
data that is most likely unused).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-15 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-01 9:05 [PATCH v2 0/4] x86, fpu/kvm: fix crash with AMX Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/fpu: Clear XSTATE_BV[i] in save state whenever XFD[i]=1 Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-03 2:06 ` Yao Yuan
2026-01-05 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 5:25 ` Yao Yuan
2026-01-06 0:54 ` Jim Mattson
2026-01-06 1:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 17:56 ` Jim Mattson
2026-01-15 16:07 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 16:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 16:27 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07 0:28 ` Chang S. Bae
2026-01-07 22:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-08 3:06 ` Binbin Wu
2026-01-08 16:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 15:54 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 16:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 18:19 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 18:26 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2026-01-15 23:43 ` Chang S. Bae
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: kvm: replace numbered sync points with actions Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-06 0:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-07 22:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-08 20:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: kvm: try getting XFD and XSAVE state out of sync Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: kvm: Verify TILELOADD actually #NM faults when XFD[18]=1 Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-06 1:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] x86, fpu/kvm: fix crash with AMX Sean Christopherson
2026-01-15 12:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-15 13:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 16:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-15 17:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-15 17:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 12:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 11:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-22 11:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-22 12:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-23 13:23 ` Borislav Petkov
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