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From: Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Daniel Wagner <wagi@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	 "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
	 "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Costa Shulyupin <costa.shul@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	 Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	 Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
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	 GR-QLogic-Storage-Upstream@marvell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 05/10] scsi: Use block layer helpers to constrain queue affinity
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:30:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fdbc2ddc-830b-4727-88ae-5347fea8fca8@flourine.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c06d0ef2-6bd2-4f5d-895f-0255415b2a24@suse.de>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 12:28:49PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> It really shouldn't be an issue when the cpus are distributed 'correctly'
> :-)

If I get the drift, we start to discuss how the mapping could be
normally, so not for isolcpus. The isolcpus case is just how many hwq
are available (and affinity):

 num queues to map = min(num housekeeping CPUs, #hwq)

and then it's common code, no special housekeeping mapping code.

> We have several possibilities:
> -> #hwq > num_possible_cpus: easy, 1:1 mapping, no problem

I agree, no problem here.

> -> num_online_cpu < #hwq < num_possible_cpus: Not as easy, but if we
>    ensure that each online cpu is mapped to a different hwq we don't
>    have a performance impact.

This should also be fairly straightforward too. First assign each online
CPU a hwq and distribute the rest of the hwq amount the rest of the
possible offline CPUs.

> -> #hwq < num_online_cpu: If we ensure that a) the number of online cpus
>    per hwq is (roughly) identical we won't have a performance impact.
>    As a bonus we should strive to have the number of offline cpus
>    distributed equally on each hwq.

__group_cpus_evenly is handling this pretty well.

> Of course, that doesn't take into accound NUMA locality; with NUMA locality
> you would need to ensure to have at least one CPU per NUMA node
> mapped to each hwq. Which actually would impose a lower limit on the
> number (and granularity!) of hwqs (namely the number of NUMA nodes), but
> that's fair, I guess.

Again __group_cpus_evenly is taking NUMA into account as I understand it.

> But this really can be delegated to later patches; initially we really
> should identify which drivers might have issues with CPU hotplug,
> and at the very least issue a warning for these drivers.

There are different ways I suppose. My approach is not to change the
drivers too much because I don't have access to all the hardware for
testing. Instead extend the core code so that the different cases are
covered.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 16:33 [PATCH v7 00/10] blk: honor isolcpus configuration Daniel Wagner
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] lib/group_cpus: Add group_masks_cpus_evenly() Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:18   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-03 12:36     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-11  8:28   ` John Garry
2025-09-03 12:42     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] genirq/affinity: Add cpumask to struct irq_affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] blk-mq: add blk_mq_{online|possible}_queue_affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:29   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] nvme-pci: use block layer helpers to constrain queue affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:29   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] scsi: Use " Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-04  9:37     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-04 10:28       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-04 12:30         ` Daniel Wagner [this message]
2025-09-05  7:41     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] virtio: blk/scsi: use " Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] isolation: Introduce io_queue isolcpus type Daniel Wagner
2025-07-08  1:26   ` Aaron Tomlin
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] blk-mq: use hk cpus only when isolcpus=io_queue is enabled Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-04  9:21     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  9:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-04  9:00     ` Daniel Wagner
2025-07-07  5:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-03 14:47   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-02 16:33 ` [PATCH v7 09/10] blk-mq: prevent offlining hk CPUs with associated online isolated CPUs Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-07  7:44   ` Ming Lei
2025-07-08  1:31     ` Aaron Tomlin
2025-07-08  1:23   ` Aaron Tomlin
2025-07-02 16:34 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] docs: add io_queue flag to isolcpus Daniel Wagner
2025-07-03  6:59   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-07-08  1:26   ` Aaron Tomlin

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