From: Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner <maxbr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
arnd@arndb.de, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
brueckner@linux.ibm.com, schnelle@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio: console: Make resizing compliant with virtio spec
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:12:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe72c90a59354f2507c1d528c4e5b8562b20a3e8.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250319181308.365ee0ea.pasic@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 18:13 +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:00:06 -0400
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I was mistaken in my earlier reply - I had missed this
> > > > virtio_console_resize definition in the spec. So indeed
> > > > there's a
> > > > discrepancy in Linux kernel and the spec's ordering for the
> > > > control
> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > > OK, that needs fixing someplace. Perhaps in the kernel (like
> > > > your
> > > > orig. patch), but with an accurate commit message.
> > >
> > > So should I send a patch v2 or should the spec be changed
> > > instead? Or
> > > would you like to first await the opinion of the spec
> > > maintainers?
> > >
> > > The mail I initially sent to the virtio mailing list seems to
> > > have
> > > fallen on deaf ears. I now added Michael Tsirkin to this thread
> > > so that
> > > things might get going.
> >
> >
> > If we can fix the driver to fit the spec, that's best.
> > We generally try to avoid changing the spec just because
> > drivers are buggy.
>
> I think the call if fixing the driver is possible needs to be made by
> the maintainers of the driver. Fixing the driver IMHO implies that
> if this is seeing any usage in the wild where it properly works a
> fix on the driver side would imply a function regression. But any
> implementers should have complained. So IMHO it is not unreasonable
> to
> assume that this is not seeing any usage in the wild.
>
> And people would still have the opportunity to catch the regression
> during testing and complain about it.
>
> I agree with Michael, changing the spec because of a buggy
> implementation should rather be the exception than the rule. And
> AFAIK
> it is not like we have declared something a reference implementation,
> so in that sense the implementation in Linux is just one
> implementation.
>
> I suppose making it runtime configurable via module parameter is an
> overkill at this point.
>
> So based no what we know I'm slightly in favor of let us just fix it
> in Linux and see if anybody complains.
>
> Another thing I noticed during looking at this. AFAICT Linux does not
> seem to handle endiannes here. And AFAIU the message is supposed to
> hold
> le16 that is little endian u16! Maximilian, is this in your opinion
> something we need to fix as well? Or am I just missing the
> conversion?
>
> Regards,
> Halil
Thanks, I didn't notice that, as I only tested this feature on x86. I
double checked struct virtio_console_config as it also defines cols
before rows, but there the kernel follows the spec (including
endianness).
I'll send a patch v2 shortly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-20 7:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-25 9:21 Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-03 11:54 ` Amit Shah
2025-03-05 9:53 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-05 12:13 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-03-05 12:15 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-03-05 12:33 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-10 13:04 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-18 9:51 ` Amit Shah
2025-03-18 10:07 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-18 14:25 ` Amit Shah
2025-03-19 8:54 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-19 9:12 ` Amit Shah
2025-03-19 13:00 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-19 15:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-03-19 17:13 ` Halil Pasic
2025-03-19 21:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-03-20 7:12 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner [this message]
2025-03-20 10:41 ` Halil Pasic
2025-03-20 11:53 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-20 14:09 ` Halil Pasic
2025-03-20 14:19 ` Halil Pasic
2025-03-20 17:19 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-03-20 7:23 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
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