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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	christian@brauner.io, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: 5.8-rc*: kernel BUG at kernel/signal.c:1917
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:26:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjv9iii7p3.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200720131747.GD119549@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>


On 20/07/20 14:17, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:20:26PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> On 20/07/20 12:26, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
>
>> > +	/*
>> > +	 * We must re-load prev->state in case ttwu_remote() changed it
>> > +	 * before we acquired rq->lock.
>> > +	 */
>> > +	tmp_state = prev->state;
>> > +	if (unlikely(prev_state != tmp_state)) {
>> > +		/*
>> > +		 * ptrace_{,un}freeze_traced() think it is cool to change
>> > +		 * ->state around behind our backs between TASK_TRACED and
>> > +		 *  __TASK_TRACED.
>> > +		 *
>> > +		 * This is safe because this, as well as any __TASK_TRACED
>> > +		 * wakeups are under siglock.
>> > +		 *
>> > +		 * For any other case, a changed prev_state must be to
>> > +		 * TASK_RUNNING, such that when it blocks, the load has
>> > +		 * happened before the smp_mb().
>> > +		 *
>> > +		 * Also see the comment with deactivate_task().
>> > +		 */
>> > +		SCHED_WARN_ON(tmp_state && (prev_state & __TASK_TRACED &&
>> > +					   !(tmp_state & __TASK_TRACED)));
>> > +
>>
>> IIUC if the state changed and isn't TASK_RUNNING it *has* to have
>> __TASK_TRACED, so can't that be
>>
>>   SCHED_WARN_ON(tmp_state && !(tmp_state & __TASK_TRACED));
>
> Suppose task->state == TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, and task != current, and
> then someone goes and does task->state = __TASK_TRACED.
>
> That is, your statement is correct given the current code, but we also
> want to verify no new code comes along and does something 'creative'.
>

That is what I was trying to go for; AFAICT your approach only warns if
__TASK_TRACED gets removed between the two loads (IOW it was already
there). The way I was seeing it is:

- We only get here if prev_state != tmp_state; IOW we know we raced with
  something
- if (tmp_state), then it wasn't with ttwu_remote()
- thus it must only be with ptrace shenanigans, IOW __TASK_TRACED must be
  there.

Now, what I suggested still doesn't detect what you pointed out, or some
crazier thing that sets __TASK_TRACED *and* some other stuff. IIUC the
ptrace transformation does TASK_TRACED -> __TASK_TRACED, so we could have
it as:

  /* TODO: name me */
  #define foobar TASK_TRACED ^ __TASK_TRACED

  ...

  /* not TASK_RUNNING; check against allowed transformations
  SCHED_WARN_ON(tmp_state && ((prev_state ^ tmp_state) & ~foobar));


That said...

> Or is the heat getting to me?

... that may apply to me as well :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-20 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-17 10:45 Jiri Slaby
2020-07-17 11:04 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-17 11:12   ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-18 13:05     ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-17 12:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-17 12:40     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-18 12:28       ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-18 17:14         ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-18 17:44           ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-20  5:44             ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-20  6:43               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20  8:26                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20  8:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-20 10:59                     ` peterz
2020-07-20 11:26                       ` peterz
2020-07-20 11:40                         ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-20 12:20                         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-07-20 13:17                           ` peterz
2020-07-20 14:26                             ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-07-20 12:57                         ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-20 14:05                         ` peterz
2020-07-20 14:02                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20 14:21                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-20 14:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20 15:35                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20 15:38                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-21  4:52                           ` Paul Gortmaker
2020-07-21  8:37                             ` peterz
2020-07-21 12:13                               ` [PATCH] sched: Fix race against ptrace_freeze_trace() peterz
2020-07-21 14:29                                 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-21 15:38                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-21  9:14                           ` 5.8-rc*: kernel BUG at kernel/signal.c:1917 Valentin Schneider
     [not found]           ` <20200719072726.5892-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-07-19 18:23             ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-20  6:00           ` Jiri Slaby
2020-07-20  6:56             ` Oleg Nesterov

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