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From: Arne Georg Gleditsch <arne.gleditsch@dolphinics.no>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: arch/x86/kernel/vsyscall_64.c: overeager NOP of syscalls
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kjmskzlb7jo.fsf@pelargir.dolphinics.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080221155852.GA42442@muc.de> (Andi Kleen's message of "21 Feb 2008 16:58:52 +0100, Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:58:52 +0100")

Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de> writes:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 02:57:34PM +0100, Arne Georg Gleditsch wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm looking at 2.6.25-rc2.  vsyscall_sysctl_change contains code to NOP
>> out the actual system call instructions of the vsyscall page when
>> vsyscall64 is enabled.  This seems to interact badly with the fallback
>> code in do_vgettimeofday which tries to call gettimeofday if the
>> configured clock source does not support vread.  (In effect,
>> gettimeofday() becomes a nop and time() always returns 0.  Not very
>> useful.)
>> 
>> Is there a good reason to keep this?  Aren't the instructions in
>> question avoided (or invoked) according to the vsyscall64 flag by the
>> surrounding logic anyway?
>
> Yes they are.  But a system call sequence at a known fixed address
> is potentially useful to exploits. That is why it is nop'ed out when
> it is not needed.

Reasonable enough, as long as it can be determined to be not needed.
Still, isn't the __vsyscall_gtod_data structure part of the same page?
Wouldn't that give you access to any 2-byte opcode you want every 64k
seconds?  You'd need to time your attack, of course, but that could be
done prior to actually launching the exploit...

-- 
								Arne.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-22 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 13:57 Arne Georg Gleditsch
2008-02-20 18:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-21 15:58 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 19:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-21 20:02     ` john stultz
2008-02-21 20:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-21 20:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-22 12:55           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 12:49     ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 10:38   ` Arne Georg Gleditsch [this message]

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