From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
Gabriel C <nix.or.die@googlemail.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
Mika Fischer <mika.fischer@zoopnet.de>,
balajirrao@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:29:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ej8o4liv.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080429103150.GJ23198@elte.hu> (Ingo Molnar's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:31:50 +0200")
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:
> * Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> So lets concentrate on PAT to solve contiguous MTRR region problems.
>>
>> We can upgrade UC to WC with pat. As well as demote WB to UC or WC.
>> So for those regions we know about we should be in good shape.
>
> sure, but whatever we do now in the sysfs API space, it will hit distros
> only in a year, relistically, because Xorg also has to adopt to it. The
> workaround from Yinghai looks reasonably configurable - if we mess up
> (say an SMM comes in while we fiddle with the MTRRs) we'll likely get a
> lockup right then, during bootup, so it wont be hard to realize what
> went wrong. In that sense it's in fact safer to do it during early init
> than let the user do it via some script, because the window is smaller,
> etc.
>
> we still default to the safe mode of course and dont touch MTRRs, but
> for note the various configuration options that are available to distros
> and users.
The potential problem isn't while we reprogram the MTRRs, the potential
problem is mapping the SMM area uncachable. In which case we will
make each SMM interrupt drastically slower. Which can have all kinds of
unpleasant side effects.
If we really can mess up SMM mode that way we have a really nasty
interaction that is horrible to debug, or recognize.
Further the opportunity for this kind of fixup is small.
Newer AMD systems don't need it as they have an extra
way of specifying memory about 4G as WB. Systems with just
the MTRRs can only use this when they have right around 4GB
because with more memory there are not enough MTRRs to leave them
non-overlapping and still mark all of memory WB.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-29 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-20 4:45 [PATCH] x86: disable_mtrr_trim only need for x86_64 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20 5:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-20 6:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20 8:17 ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn Yinghai Lu
2008-01-20 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-20 15:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 5:40 ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 5:44 ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 5:58 ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v2 Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 6:05 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-01-21 6:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 6:14 ` Li Zefan
2008-01-21 6:57 ` [PATCH] x86_64: check if Tom2 is enabled Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 17:24 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 17:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-21 17:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 18:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 18:09 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-01-21 18:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-21 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-21 0:00 ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn Yinghai Lu
[not found] ` <200801202255.02645.yinghai.lu@sun.com>
[not found] ` <200801202255.58642.yinghai.lu@sun.com>
2008-01-21 6:56 ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 16:30 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-21 19:14 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-21 20:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-21 21:37 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-23 3:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-26 0:01 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-26 0:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-01-26 0:37 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-28 15:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-28 18:07 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-01-22 16:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-23 0:23 ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-04-26 10:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 12:56 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-27 1:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 18:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-28 23:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 10:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-04-29 18:40 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-29 19:44 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-28 6:44 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 9:18 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 9:34 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 9:54 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 10:03 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 10:07 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 19:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 14:11 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 14:24 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 19:06 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:38 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 20:45 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 21:19 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 22:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 22:56 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 23:23 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 1:05 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-29 2:41 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-29 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 10:42 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 19:46 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 14:15 ` Gabriel C
2008-04-28 16:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-28 16:31 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 16:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-29 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 12:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-29 15:52 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-29 22:03 ` [patch] PCI: export resource_wc in pci sysfs Ingo Molnar
2008-04-29 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-27 0:57 ` [PATCH] x86_32: trim memory by updating e820 v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-04-27 8:21 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-27 1:22 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-27 8:29 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 6:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 8:38 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 9:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-04-28 9:44 ` Mika Fischer
2008-04-28 9:58 ` Gabriel C
2008-01-21 6:57 ` [PATCH] x86_64: update e820 instead of updating end_pfn v3 Yinghai Lu
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