From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: fastboot@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] x86_64: Reload CS when startup_64 is used.
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:41:53 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1u045sagu.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1156208306.21411.85.camel@localhost> (Magnus Damm's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:58:26 +0900")
Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp> writes:
> On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:02 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp> writes:
>>
>> > x86_64: Reload CS when startup_64 is used.
>> >
>> > The current x86_64 startup code never reloads CS during the early boot
> process
>> > if the 64-bit function startup_64 is used as entry point. The 32-bit entry
>> > point startup_32 does the right thing and reloads CS, and this is what most
>> > people are using if they use bzImage.
>> >
>> > This patch fixes the case when the Linux kernel is booted into using kexec
>> > under Xen. The Xen hypervisor is using large CS values which makes the
> x86_64
>> > kernel fail - but only if vmlinux is booted, bzImage works well because it
>> > is using the 32-bit entry point.
>> >
>> > The main question is if we require that the boot loader should setup CS
>> > to some certain offset to be able to boot the kernel. The sane solution IMO
>> > should be that the kernel requires that the loaded descriptors are correct,
>> > but that the exact offset within the GDT the boot loader is using should not
>> > matter. This is the way the i386 boot works if I understand things
> correctly.
>>
>> What extra reload of cs does Xen introduce?
>
> None, but Xen is using CS values that are very different from Linux:
>
> xen/include/public/arch-x86_64.h:
>
> #define FLAT_RING3_CS32 0xe023 /* GDT index 260 */
> #define FLAT_RING3_CS64 0xe033 /* GDT index 261 */
> #define FLAT_RING3_DS32 0xe02b /* GDT index 262 */
> #define FLAT_RING3_DS64 0x0000 /* NULL selector */
> #define FLAT_RING3_SS32 0xe02b /* GDT index 262 */
> #define FLAT_RING3_SS64 0xe02b /* GDT index 262 */
>
> The main problem is that startup_64 depends on that CS is set to
> __KERNEL_CS when it shouldn't. On top of that the purgatory code in
> kexec-tools doesn't setup CS when using a 64-bit entry point. The
> following (mangled) patch solves that for me:
I believe the cs shadow registers are fine.
> --- 0001/purgatory/arch/x86_64/entry64.S
> +++ work/purgatory/arch/x86_64/entry64.S 2006-08-18
> 15:34:23.000000000 +0900
> @@ -37,8 +37,9 @@ entry64:
> movl %eax, %fs
> movl %eax, %gs
>
> - /* In 64bit mode the code segment is meaningless */
Would you care to explain to me how the above comment is not true.
As I recall the only meaning %cs has is if you are a kernel
or user space process. The base address and everything else
mean nothing.
In addition the value in %cs never means anything. It is the
values in the cs shadow registers that count. The value in %cs
just reflects where those values in %cs came from.
So if we never reload %cs and only use the shadow values why does
the value in %cs matter?
>> I'm not really comfortable with a half virtualized case.
>
> That I don't understand, care to explain more?
The only case where I can think of that the value in %cs would matter
is if you change %cs. The only way I can see that is if you are
half para-virtualized. Because we are running privileged
instructions in startup_64 it shouldn't work for the paravirtualized
case, and it should work just like it does today in the
fully virtualized case.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-22 3:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-21 9:54 Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 10:19 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 13:29 ` [Fastboot] " Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 14:16 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 0:47 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 14:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-08-21 14:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 14:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-08-21 15:04 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-21 20:10 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 21:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-21 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-22 0:58 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 3:41 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-08-22 4:10 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 8:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 8:37 ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-22 8:53 ` [Fastboot] " Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 9:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-23 3:10 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 9:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
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