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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: vgoyal@in.ibm.com
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jurriaan <thunder7@xs4all.nl>,
	Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>,
	Horms <horms@verge.net.au>
Subject: Re: 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 - no boot, "address not 2M aligned"
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:23:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1zm5qc9q2.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403040152.GA5108@in.ibm.com> (Vivek Goyal's message of "Tue, 3 Apr 2007 09:31:52 +0530")

Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> writes:

>> I guess at this point the easy case is that we modify /sbin/kexec to support
>> it.  And the other bootloaders can come be upgraded if the feature is
>> interesting enough.
>> 
>> > On i386, somebody already found an interesting usage of
> CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START
>> > where he was running his kernel above 16MB so that he can maximize on
>> > DMA ZONE. Can't think of any usage for x86_64 at the moment but I think
>> > down the line people might come up with such usages.
>> 
>> Agreed.  We do have CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN that can handle that case,
>> although I admit that is a bit of a hack.
>> 
>
> Yes, but x86_64 will not have any of those options and only way to run 
> kernel will be either use kexec or modify your boot-loader to so that
> it can handle relocatable images.

True.

>> > To me, retaining CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START gives added flexibility to the user,
>> > at the expense of reduced simplicity. We should definitely change the type
>> > of vmlinux to ET_DYN but at the same time it might still be worth to retain
>> > CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START option.
>> 
>> I think something like CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START currently gives us very
>> little gain, and is hard to use correctly, and there are alternative
>> solutions.  So if we can get rid of it, by only inconveniencing users
>> who want load their kernels at a weird address it is worth it.
>> 
>> >> I think I can switch the vmlinux header type in about 100 lines or so
>> >> of code.  Assuming I can ever get 30 minutes with the appropriate
>> >> kernel.
>> >> 
>> >
>> > That would be awesome. Then vmlinux will be relocatable too. (Officially).
>> 
>> Yes.  For x86_64 I can do this.  i386 is more difficult.  (Although with
>> a little cleverness we can move the code that processes relocations into
>> vmlinux).  
>> 
>
> Performing relocations in vmlinux will be interesting. That way i386 vmlinux
> too will become relocatable and only piece of puzzle to solve will be to
> make vmlinux of type ET_DYN.

Actually making vmlinux have type ET_DYN is the easier piece.  Basically
the quick way to do this is to have an arch specific: "cmd_vmlinux__"
like uml does so we can edit things after the make.

Changing an integer in an ELF header is simple.

Inserting the code to perform the relocations feels a bit trickier but
we can probably just dump it in head.S like we do on x86_64.  We still need
to insert the actual relocations to process though.  Which requires all of the
post processing we currently do just called at a slightly different location.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-30  8:05 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-03-30 11:00 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-30 16:31 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-30 16:55   ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2007-03-30 17:19     ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Michal Piotrowski
2007-03-30 16:38 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30 16:59   ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-03-30 17:23 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-30 18:58   ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Johannes Berg
2007-03-31  7:12 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 - no boot, "address not 2M aligned" Helge Hafting
2007-03-31  7:53   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-31  8:14     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 22:09       ` Helge Hafting
2007-04-10  4:48         ` Helge Hafting
2007-04-01  5:29     ` thunder7
2007-04-01  6:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-01  6:29         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02  7:41           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-02  8:43             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-02  9:45               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-02 17:26                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-03  4:01                   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-03  5:23                     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-03 10:03                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-23  5:12                         ` [PATCH 1/2] x86_64: Reflect the relocatability of the kernel in the ELF header Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23  5:15                           ` [PATCH 2/2] x86_64: Remove CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START and CONFIG_RELOCATABLE Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23  6:07                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-23  6:17                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23  6:25                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-24  6:31                           ` [PATCH 1/2] x86_64: Reflect the relocatability of the kernel in the ELF header Vivek Goyal
2007-04-24  7:21                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-02 11:17             ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 - no boot, "address not 2M aligned" thunder7
2007-04-02 11:36               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-04-02 14:49                 ` thunder7
2007-04-02 14:59                   ` thunder7
2007-04-03  4:05                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-03-31  8:05 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 - cpuidle, acpi, and C-states Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-03-31 19:25 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3: Why was my vioc cleanup patch dropped? Adrian Bunk
2007-03-31 20:48 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/ata/pata_ali.c:ali_tf_load() static Adrian Bunk
2007-04-01 16:21   ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-31 20:55 ` [2.6 patch] remove the config option for the cs5530a_warm_reset() quirk Adrian Bunk
2007-03-31 21:05   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-31 21:11     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-31 21:17       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-31 20:55 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/net/qla3xxx.c:PHY_DEVICES[] static Adrian Bunk
2007-04-04  2:34   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-31 20:55 ` [-mm patch] make struct proc_fdinfo_file_operations static Adrian Bunk
2007-04-01 16:00 ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-01 19:03   ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Andrew Morton
2007-04-01 20:39     ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-01 20:56       ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-01 21:59       ` 2.6.21-rc5-mm3 Rafael J. Wysocki

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