From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:16:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ipnzzf7q.fsf@intrepid.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15324.1318004954@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (Valdis Kletnieks's message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:29:14 -0400")
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu writes:
> You got that 180 degrees out of phase. Jon said he wanted a keysigning party
> where I would prove that I own key B4D3D7B0 (which is, in fact, my key) by
> signing something random.
But this is not needed at all. While signing someone's public key, you
don't need to check if he has a corresponding private key. That's BTW
the same as with PKI certificate requests.
By signing one's public key you don't certify at all that you know
anything about the corresponding private key. You certify that the
person in question confirmed this public key belongs to him/her. You may
want to check the email part, but it's part of the identity check, not
the private key check.
The check if someone has access to the private key is important later,
when we can't see the person.
> My claim is that if I can take Jon's key and sign it
> with B4D3D7B0, that's already proving I control the key, and another signing
> of something else doesn't prove anything regarding my control of the
> key.
That may be disputable but what I wanted to say is it simply doesn't
matter.
> Now mind you, it *does* have its uses - for example, "sign the random string
> I just e-mailed you" will verify that I have control of the e-mail address that the
> key claims to be attached to. But that's different from proving I have control
> of the actual key.
Definitely.
--
Krzysztof Halasa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-08 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-30 23:50 H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-30 23:59 ` kernel.org status: hints on how to check your machine for intrusion Greg KH
2011-10-01 1:15 ` David Miller
2011-10-01 4:54 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 7:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 14:07 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 18:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:13 ` David Miller
2011-10-01 18:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 21:23 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-01 21:30 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 9:28 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-10-01 18:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-03 9:47 ` gmack
2011-10-01 22:06 ` Frank A. Kingswood
2011-10-03 9:49 ` gmack
2011-10-01 14:17 ` akwatts
2011-10-01 14:28 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 16:29 ` Andy
2011-10-01 16:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 17:19 ` Andy
2011-10-01 17:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-01 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-01 17:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 18:40 ` Andy
2011-10-01 19:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 19:24 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 20:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 20:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-01 20:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 20:24 ` Andy
2011-10-01 22:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 0:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 5:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 1:58 ` tmhikaru
2011-10-02 2:26 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 3:30 ` Andy
2011-10-02 4:39 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 6:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 12:03 ` Andy
2011-10-02 18:27 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-11 1:16 ` Andrew Watts
2011-10-02 3:31 ` tmhikaru
2011-10-07 9:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-13 2:34 ` Re " Matthew W.S. Bell
2011-10-13 10:59 ` Matthew W.S. Bell
2011-10-18 15:13 ` Jean Delvare
2011-10-18 15:21 ` Greg KH
2011-10-18 16:08 ` Jean Delvare
2011-10-01 14:05 ` kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust Greg KH
2011-10-01 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-01 22:26 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 23:02 ` Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
2011-10-02 23:09 ` Greg KH
2011-10-03 9:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-03 14:13 ` Greg KH
2011-10-03 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-01 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-01 22:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-10-01 22:52 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-02 1:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 1:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 17:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 18:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 18:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 19:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 19:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 19:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 18:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-02 18:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 20:42 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 9:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-03 16:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-10-03 18:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-04 20:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-04 22:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-04 23:17 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-10-05 4:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-05 7:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 17:06 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-05 19:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 19:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 20:09 ` Greg KH
2011-10-05 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 23:47 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-06 7:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 23:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 0:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-06 0:18 ` Chris Friesen
2011-10-06 7:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 17:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 8:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 10:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 11:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 11:05 ` Josh Boyer
2011-10-06 11:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 4:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-05 20:00 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-05 20:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 20:36 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-05 23:55 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 0:23 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 0:50 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 5:25 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 13:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 14:43 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 10:05 ` Alan Cox
2011-10-06 17:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 15:58 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-06 17:39 ` Mark Brown
2011-10-06 17:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 17:52 ` Mark Brown
2011-10-06 17:48 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 18:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-06 18:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-06 19:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 22:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-07 16:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-07 16:59 ` Greg KH
2011-10-07 16:59 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-07 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-08 5:02 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 14:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-08 15:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-10-08 15:48 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 17:59 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 21:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 21:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-09 3:01 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 15:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 15:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2011-10-05 19:43 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-02 18:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-10-02 22:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-02 23:16 ` Josh Boyer
2011-10-03 0:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 22:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2011-10-02 22:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 23:23 ` Olof Johansson
2011-10-02 23:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 0:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-03 1:00 ` Guenter Roeck
2011-10-03 1:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-03 1:09 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 1:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-03 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 1:42 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-03 1:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 3:15 ` Geoff Levand
2011-10-03 3:29 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 3:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-03 3:54 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 4:02 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-03 4:33 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 0:43 ` Lee Mathers
2011-10-03 9:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-04 22:34 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-10-05 19:12 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2011-10-06 13:27 ` Cambridge, UK key signing meeting. Thursday 13th Oct Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-11 16:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-02 18:20 ` kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 1:18 ` Ben Pfaff
2011-10-03 1:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 11:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-03 22:56 ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-04 4:49 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-04 4:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-04 5:11 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-04 16:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-04 7:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-04 19:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-06 3:14 ` John Johansen
2011-10-06 4:49 ` hpanvin@gmail.com
2011-10-04 12:51 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-04 22:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-04 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-05 0:27 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 17:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 18:22 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 18:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-06 21:19 ` [Warsaw Poland] " Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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