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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@gmail.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Bosko Radivojevic <bosko.radivojevic@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Number of bugs - statistics
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:35:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzlqht4nb.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48369DD7.8040907@superbug.co.uk>

At Fri, 23 May 2008 13:35:03 +0300,
James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> 
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:20:46AM -0700, Natalie Protasevich wrote:
> >   
> >> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Andrew sees and handles the majority of incoming bug reports.
> >>> Ask him whether he agress with this.
> >>>
> >>> And ALSA alone has 2000 open bug reports, which makes the open ACPI or
> >>> SCSI bug numbers relatively irrelevant in any "number of bugs"
> >>> statistics.
> >>>
> >>>       
> > Not everyone uses Bugzilla (e.g. ALSA uses Mantis).
> >
> > And the majority of bug reports might still go only to mailing lists and 
> > not into any bugtracker at all. As long as this happens the data is 
> > simply not available.
> >
> >   
> >> by various criteria: ALSA bugs
> >> are numerous, which is not important for most enterprise server users
> >> who would completely disregard this category, whereas desktop users
> >> will probably concentrate on those more than any other.
> >>     
> >
> >   
> Although ALSA might have a lot of bug reports. Any bugs that affect 
> kernel stability are fixed quickly.
> The rest of the ALSA bugs are more along the lines of "This feature on 
> this particular sound card variant does not seem to work". This 
> generally implies un-implemented features that uses now want. Some times 
> the fix is simply adding that variant to the quirks list and finding out 
> which quirk should be applied.
> So, once one removes the "un-implemented features" category from the 
> ALSA bug list, one would expect the remaining number to be low.

... and a normal screening would reduce the amount of bugs to 1/4, I
guess.  But, we have a serious problem regarding man power in this
area, unfortunately.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-23 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-22 12:28 Bosko Radivojevic
2008-05-22 14:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 14:51   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-22 15:47     ` Natalie Protasevich
2008-05-22 15:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 16:20       ` Natalie Protasevich
2008-05-22 16:50         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 17:08           ` Natalie Protasevich
2008-05-22 17:33             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 17:51               ` Natalie Protasevich
2008-05-22 18:11                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 22:18           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23  9:09             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-23 14:11               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23 16:50                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-23 18:29                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23 20:31                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-26 17:05                       ` Dave Jones
2008-05-23 10:35           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-05-23 15:35             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2008-05-22 16:22       ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-22 16:38         ` Bart Van Assche
2008-05-22 17:09         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22 17:45           ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-22 19:17             ` Adrian Bunk

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