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From: Fujunjie <fujunjie1@qq.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alexandre Ghiti <alexghiti@meta.com>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 6/9] mm: provide anon locality evidence for zswap large swapin
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 21:11:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_7577C581F93B0F8D11889B0B8B2A2E876707@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=MDSwMoU-=h3NOG==-ru+qT3LeTi2_PADLWFXBB9aZZ+w@mail.gmail.com>



On 5/30/2026 3:22 AM, Nhat Pham wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 5:19 AM fujunjie <fujunjie1@qq.com> wrote:
>>
>> The common zswap large-swapin policy needs locality evidence from
>> callers before it can admit a large folio. For anonymous faults, provide
>> that evidence from existing VMA hints and from the PTE young state left
>> by earlier zswap-backed large swapins.
>>
>> Keep non-faulting PTEs old when mapping a speculative all-zswap large
>> folio. A later fault can then require a dense young previous range before
>> admitting another large swapin without adding VMA state.
> 
> Makes sense to me.
> 
>>
>> This also removes the old zswap-enabled guard from the THP swapin
>> candidate scan. The common swapin path now classifies the backend range
>> and falls back to order-0 for mixed zswap/disk ranges or races.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: fujunjie <fujunjie1@qq.com>
>> ---
>>  mm/memory.c     | 234 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>  mm/swap.h       |   6 ++
>>  mm/swap_state.c |  15 ++++
>>  3 files changed, 235 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index 92a82008d583..7bbb89632000 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -4556,6 +4556,35 @@ static void memcg1_swapin_retry_folio(struct folio *folio,
>>         folio_unlock(folio);
>>  }
>>
>> +static void set_swapin_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>> +                           unsigned long address, pte_t *ptep, pte_t pte,
>> +                           unsigned int nr_pages, unsigned int fault_pte_idx,
>> +                           bool fault_only_young)
>> +{
>> +       struct mm_struct *mm = vma->vm_mm;
>> +       pte_t old_pte;
>> +
>> +       if (!fault_only_young || nr_pages == 1) {
>> +               set_ptes(mm, address, ptep, pte, nr_pages);
>> +               return;
>> +       }
>> +
>> +       old_pte = pte_mkold(pte);
>> +       if (fault_pte_idx)
>> +               set_ptes(mm, address, ptep, old_pte, fault_pte_idx);
>> +
>> +       set_pte_at(mm, address + fault_pte_idx * PAGE_SIZE,
>> +                  ptep + fault_pte_idx,
>> +                  pte_mkyoung(pte_advance_pfn(pte, fault_pte_idx)));
> 
> Hmm, does this mean that without THP swapin, the faulting PTE is not
> marked young, but it is marked young if there is a THP swapin. That's
> a behavioral change right? Would this throw off other heuristics
> relying on this bit, or any justification that this is fine?

Thanks.

The intent was not to make the faulting PTE behave differently from the
normal swapin path. In do_swap_page() we first build the PTE with:

		pte = mk_pte(page, vma->vm_page_prot);

and on the common architectures I checked, the normal user pgprot already
contains the accessed/young bit. For example arm64 PAGE_SHARED/PAGE_READONLY
are based on _PAGE_DEFAULT, which includes PTE_AF, and x86 user page
protections also include the accessed bit. So in practice the faulting PTE is
already young after mk_pte() there.Therefore, the default path is originally marked as young.

What I really wanted here is only to keep the speculative neighbouring PTEs
old. A large zswapin may install PTEs for pages that did not fault, and those
should not all look accessed just because mk_pte() produced a young PTE.

But, the explicit pte_mkyoung() on the faulting PTE makes this look
like THP swapin is adding a new behavior.I will try to improve it 
in a way that is less ambiguous.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-31 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-29 12:17 [RFC PATCH v2 0/9] mm: support zswap-backed large folio swapin fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/9] mm/zswap: expose range state for swapin policy fujunjie
2026-05-29 18:35   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 13:47     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/9] mm: let swap_read_folio() report retryable zswap races fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/9] mm/zswap: support fully zswap-backed large folio loads fujunjie
2026-05-29 18:25   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 20:03     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/9] mm: admit large swapin by backend range in swapin_sync() fujunjie
2026-05-29 14:43   ` Kairui Song
2026-05-29 14:45     ` Kairui Song
2026-05-31 12:34       ` Fujunjie
2026-05-31 12:21     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 18:34   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 13:15     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/9] mm: add common locality admission for zswap large swapin fujunjie
2026-05-29 19:00   ` Nhat Pham
2026-06-01  9:47     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/9] mm: provide anon locality evidence " fujunjie
2026-05-29 19:22   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 13:11     ` Fujunjie [this message]
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/9] mm/shmem: provide VMA-hint locality " fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/9] mm: try all-zswap large swapin within swap readahead windows fujunjie
2026-05-29 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 9/9] docs: mm: update THP swapin counter descriptions fujunjie
2026-05-29 18:37   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 13:21     ` Fujunjie
2026-05-29 18:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/9] mm: support zswap-backed large folio swapin Nhat Pham
2026-05-31 12:32   ` Fujunjie

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