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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-aio@kvack.org, zach.brown@oracle.com, bcrl@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] aio: remove aio-max-nr and instead use the memlock rlimit to limit the number of pages pinned for the aio completion ring
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:43:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49hc21bihv.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090309153630.912d36a0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:36:30 -0700")

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> It's risky to simply remove an existing tunable.  What if someone's
> mission-critical startup script which is provided by a super-slow or
> even no-longer-in-business vendor does 
>
> 	if (write(aoi-max-nr, something) == error)
> 		crash_and_burn()
>
> ?
>
> It would be prudent to have a more cautious update scheme.  Leave the
> existing tunable in place.  Keep it working if possible.  If someone
> uses it, blurt out a loud printk telling them that they're using a
> deprecated interface and informing them how to update.
>
> Then at some later time we can remove the old interface.

You are absolutely right.  The more I think about this, the less
enthused I am about it.  I still believe the change is the right way to
go, but there are years worth of deployments using the current scheme,
and there are existing documents detailing how to work within that
scheme.  I hereby rescind this patch.

I will follow-up with the memlock cleanup, though;  let me know if you
have comments on that patch.  Zach mentioned that he hates my new
function name (can_mlock_pages), so I guess at least that will change.
;)

Cheers,
Jeff

      reply	other threads:[~2009-03-10 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-09 15:49 Jeff Moyer
2009-03-09 15:54 ` [patch] factor out checks against the memlock rlimit Jeff Moyer
2009-03-09 15:59 ` [patch] man-pages: add documentation about the memlock implications of io_setup Jeff Moyer
2009-03-09 16:45   ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-03-09 16:48   ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-03-09 20:44     ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-09 16:18 ` [patch] aio: remove aio-max-nr and instead use the memlock rlimit to limit the number of pages pinned for the aio completion ring Avi Kivity
2009-03-09 17:57   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-09 19:45     ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-09 20:36       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-10  8:36         ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-09 20:31     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  2:39       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  2:44         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-03-12  3:24           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  3:29             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-03-12  3:33               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  3:36                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-03-12  3:40                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  3:09         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  5:18           ` [PATCH] fs: fput() can be called from interrupt context Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  5:42             ` [PATCH] aio: " Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  5:47             ` [PATCH] fs: " Andrew Morton
2009-03-12  6:10               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12  6:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 13:39                   ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-13 22:34                     ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-13 22:43                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-13 23:28                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-03-14  1:40                       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-14  4:02                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-03-14 14:32                           ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-15  1:36                             ` [patch] eventfd - remove fput() call from possible IRQ context Davide Libenzi
2009-03-15 17:44                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-03-15 20:08                                 ` [patch] eventfd - remove fput() call from possible IRQ context (2nd rev) Davide Libenzi
2009-03-16 17:25                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-16 18:36                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-18 14:22                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-18 14:46                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-18 14:55                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-18 15:25                                       ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-18 15:43                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-18 16:13                                           ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-18 17:25                                     ` [patch] eventfd - remove fput() call from possible IRQ context (3rd rev) Davide Libenzi
2009-03-18 17:34                                       ` Jeff Moyer
2009-03-12 19:22                   ` [PATCH] fs: fput() can be called from interrupt context Eric Dumazet
2009-03-12 20:21                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-09 22:36 ` [patch] aio: remove aio-max-nr and instead use the memlock rlimit to limit the number of pages pinned for the aio completion ring Andrew Morton
2009-03-10 13:43   ` Jeff Moyer [this message]

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