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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] dma: swiotlb: Add an overridable architecture pool opt-out
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 19:48:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5azex8126y.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c9c04ae-cba7-4096-a7d1-70b90a46c161@arm.com>

Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> writes:

> On 21/09/2026 7:36 am, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
>> On x86, iommu=off historically prevented SWIOTLB initialization by not
>> setting SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT. This overloads that flag: it
>> controls both whether a pool is selected and where the pool is
>> allocated. If another requirement, swiotlb=force selects a pool
>> independently, omitting SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT may place it above
>> the addressable range of devices which need bounce buffering.
>
> Well then surely something is wrong with the design? If 
> SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT is set then SWIOTLB still needs to respect 
> it irrespective of any *additional* reasons for activating (either from 
> arch code or internally). And conversely, if devices have addressing 
> limits but SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT is *not* set, then the arch 
> code has clearly gone wrong or made a bad assumption, but that doesn't 
> seem like SWIOTLB's problem to worry about.
>

That is what this patch does. It sets SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT
based on max_possible_pfn, while SWIOTLB_INIT_FORCE_DISABLE allows the
architecture to opt out of SWIOTLB initialization independently.


>
>> Add SWIOTLB_INIT_FORCE_DISABLE to let an architecture opt out of normal
>> pool initialization without discarding the pool placement constraints.
>> 
>> Unlike swiotlb_force_disable, which is set by swiotlb=noforce and
>> unconditionally prevents pool initialization, the new flag is an
>> architecture default. Explicit requirements such as memory encryption,
>> architecture remapping, or swiotlb=force take precedence over it.
>
> Logically, that should already be implied by the architecture passing no 
> SWIOTLB_INIT flags.
>

We now have a case where max_possible_pfn causes
SWIOTLB_INIT_ADDRESSING_LIMIT to be set, while the kernel command line
specifies iommu=off. We want to disable SWIOTLB in this case even though
the SWIOTLB_INIT flags are nonzero.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21  6:36 [PATCH v5 0/6] dma: swiotlb: Centralize default pool policy and sizing Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] dma: swiotlb: Centralize default pool policy selection Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-21 15:25   ` Robin Murphy
2026-09-22  5:32     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] dma: swiotlb: Track whether the pool size was explicitly set Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-21 12:50   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-21 15:45   ` Robin Murphy
2026-09-22  5:42     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] dma: swiotlb: Centralize minimal pool sizing Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-21 12:52   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-09-21 16:49   ` Robin Murphy
2026-09-22  6:56     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] dma: swiotlb: Centralize memory-encryption " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-23 12:47   ` Robin Murphy
2026-09-23 14:28     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] dma: swiotlb: Add an overridable architecture pool opt-out Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-23 13:04   ` Robin Murphy
2026-09-23 14:18     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-09-21  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] dma: swiotlb: Remove SWIOTLB_ANY Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-23 13:12   ` Robin Murphy

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