From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "'Christoph Lameter'" <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>, <akpm@osdl.org>,
<mm-commits@vger.kernel.org>, <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: + sched-use-tasklet-to-call-balancing.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:40:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000201c706ee$a9992e80$a081030a@amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611122137190.2708@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Christoph Lameter wrote on Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:45 PM
> > (2) we should initiate load balance within a domain only from least
> > loaded group.
>
> This would mean we would have to determine the least loaded group first.
Well, find_busiest_group() scans every single bloody CPU in the system at
the highest sched_domain level. In fact, this function is capable to find
busiest group within a domain, it should be capable to determine least
loaded group for free because it already scanned every groups within a domain.
> > Part of all this problem probably stemmed from "load balance" is incapable
> > of performing l-d between arbitrary pair of CPUs, and tightly tied load scan
> > and actual l-d action. And on top of that l-d is really a pull operation
> > to current running CPU. All these limitations dictate that every CPU somehow
> > has to scan and pull. It is extremely inefficient on large system.
>
> Right. However, if we follow this line of thought then we will be
> redesigning the load balancing logic.
It won't be a bad idea to redesign it ;-)
There are number of other oddity beside what was identified in it's design:
(1) several sched_groups are statically declared and they will reside in
boot node. I would expect cross node memory access to be expansive.
Every cpu will access these data structure repeatedly.
static struct sched_group sched_group_cpus[NR_CPUS];
static struct sched_group sched_group_core[NR_CPUS];
static struct sched_group sched_group_phys[NR_CPUS];
(2) load balance staggering. Number of people pointed out that it is overly
done.
(3) The for_each_domain() loop in rebalance_tick() looks different from
idle_balance() where it will traverse entire sched domains even if lower
level domain succeeded in moving some tasks. I would expect we either
break out of the for loop like idle_balance(), or somehow update load
for current CPU so it gets accurate load value when doing l-d in the
next level. Currently, It is doing neither.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-13 6:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200611032205.kA3M5wmJ003178@shell0.pdx.osdl.net>
2006-11-07 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-07 17:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 17:31 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-11-07 17:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 17:50 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-11-07 18:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-07 20:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 21:35 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-11-07 21:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-10 6:18 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-11-10 18:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-10 21:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-11 1:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-11 2:05 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-11-11 2:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-13 4:03 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-11-13 5:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-13 6:40 ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2006-11-14 1:06 ` [patch] sched domain: move sched group allocations to percpu area Siddha, Suresh B
2006-11-14 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-14 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-10 21:42 ` + sched-use-tasklet-to-call-balancing.patch added to -mm tree Ingo Molnar
2006-11-10 22:32 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-11-11 1:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-07 20:29 ` Ingo Molnar
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