From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [REGRESSION] Re: [PATCH 00/24] Complete EEVDF
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:28:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <001b01db608a$56d3dc40$047b94c0$@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250106170455.GB22191@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
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On 2025.01.06 09:05 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 05:59:32PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 07:01:34AM -0800, Doug Smythies wrote:
>>
>>>> What is the easiest 100% load you're seeing this with?
>>>
>>> Lately, and specifically to be able to tell others, I have been using:
>>>
>>> yes > /dev/null &
>>>
>>> On my Intel i5-10600K, with 6 cores and 2 threads per core, 12 CPUs,
>>> I run 12 of those work loads.
>>
>> On my headless ivb-ep 2 sockets, 10 cores each and 2 threads per core, I
>> do:
>>
>> for ((i=0; i<40; i++)) ; do yes > /dev/null & done
>> tools/power/x86/turbostat/turbostat --quiet --Summary --show Busy%,Bzy_MHz,IRQ,PkgWatt,PkgTmp,TSC_MHz --interval 1
>>
>> But no so far, nada :-( I've tried with full preemption and voluntary,
>> HZ=1000.
My HZ=1000 also. And: CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y
>
> And just as I send this, I see these happen:
>
> 100.00 3100 2793 40302 71 195.22
> 100.00 3100 2618 40459 72 183.58
> 100.00 3100 2993 46215 71 209.21
> 100.00 3100 2789 40467 71 195.19
> 99.92 3100 2798 40589 71 195.76
> 100.00 3100 2793 40397 72 195.46
> ...
> 100.00 3100 2844 41906 71 199.43
> 100.00 3100 2779 40468 71 194.51
> 99.96 3100 2320 40933 71 163.23
> 100.00 3100 3529 61823 72 245.70
> 100.00 3100 2793 40493 72 195.45
> 100.00 3100 2793 40462 72 195.56
>
> They look like funny little blips. Nowhere near as bad as you had
> though.
Yes, I get a lot of the lesser magnitude ones.
The large magnitude ones are very much a function of what else is running.
If just add a 0.5% load at 73 hertz work/sleep frequency, then over a 2 hour and
31 minute test I got a maximum interval time of 1.68 seconds.
Without that small pertibations I got tons of interval times of 7 seconds,
Meaning the regular 1 second interval plus 6 seconds for the CPU migration.
Since I can not seem to function without making a graph, some example graphs
are attached.
By the way, and to make it easier to go away while tests run, I am now using this
turbostat command:
doug@s19:~/kernel/linux/tools/power/x86/turbostat$ sudo ./turbostat --quiet --show Busy%,IRQ,Time_Of_Day_Seconds,CPU,usec --interval
1 | grep "^[1-9]"
6005701 1736201357.014741 - 99.76 12034
177731 1736201386.221771 - 99.76 12034
6003699 1736201393.226740 - 99.76 14167
6003704 1736201422.253743 - 99.76 12040
6005700 1736201447.278740 - 99.76 12030
311699 1736201475.816740 - 99.76 12033
Which will show when a CPU migration took over 10 milliseconds.
If you want to go further, for example to only display ones that took
over a second and to include the target CPU, then patch turbostat:
doug@s19:~/kernel/linux/tools/power/x86/turbostat$ git diff
diff --git a/tools/power/x86/turbostat/turbostat.c b/tools/power/x86/turbostat/turbostat.c
index 58a487c225a7..f8a73cc8fbfc 100644
--- a/tools/power/x86/turbostat/turbostat.c
+++ b/tools/power/x86/turbostat/turbostat.c
@@ -2704,7 +2704,7 @@ int format_counters(struct thread_data *t, struct core_data *c, struct pkg_data
struct timeval tv;
timersub(&t->tv_end, &t->tv_begin, &tv);
- outp += sprintf(outp, "%5ld\t", tv.tv_sec * 1000000 + tv.tv_usec);
+ outp += sprintf(outp, "%7ld\t", tv.tv_sec * 1000000 + tv.tv_usec);
}
/* Time_Of_Day_Seconds: on each row, print sec.usec last timestamp taken */
@@ -4570,12 +4570,14 @@ int get_counters(struct thread_data *t, struct core_data *c, struct pkg_data *p)
int i;
int status;
+ gettimeofday(&t->tv_begin, (struct timezone *)NULL); /* doug test */
+
if (cpu_migrate(cpu)) {
fprintf(outf, "%s: Could not migrate to CPU %d\n", __func__, cpu);
return -1;
}
- gettimeofday(&t->tv_begin, (struct timezone *)NULL);
+// gettimeofday(&t->tv_begin, (struct timezone *)NULL);
if (first_counter_read)
get_apic_id(t);
Example output:
sudo ./turbostat --quiet --show Busy%,IRQ,Time_Of_Day_Seconds,CPU,usec --interval 1 | grep "^[1-9]"
1330709 1736202049.987740 - 99.76 12040
1330603 1736202049.987740 11 99.76 1003
6008710 1736202068.008741 - 99.76 12030
6008601 1736202068.008741 11 99.76 1003
2003709 1736202120.936740 - 99.76 12028
2003603 1736202120.936740 11 99.76 1002
6005710 1736202140.956741 - 99.76 12028
6005604 1736202140.956741 11 99.76 1002
In this short example all captures were for the CPU 5 to 11 migration.
2 at 6 seconds, 1 at 1.33 seconds and 1 at 2 seconds.
I'll try, and report on, your test patch from the other email later.
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2024-12-29 22:51 Doug Smythies
2025-01-06 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 15:01 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-06 16:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 17:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 17:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-07 1:24 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-07 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 22:28 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2025-01-07 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-07 15:04 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-07 16:25 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-07 19:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-08 5:15 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-08 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-08 15:48 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-09 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-09 12:18 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/fair: Fix EEVDF entity placement bug causing scheduling lag tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-17 9:56 ` Alexander Egorenkov
2025-04-22 5:40 ` ll"RE: " Doug Smythies
2025-04-24 7:56 ` Alexander Egorenkov
2025-04-26 15:09 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-10 5:09 ` [REGRESSION] Re: [PATCH 00/24] Complete EEVDF Doug Smythies
2025-01-10 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-12 23:14 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-13 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-14 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-14 15:15 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-15 2:08 ` Len Brown
2025-01-15 16:47 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-19 0:09 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-20 3:55 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-21 11:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-21 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-21 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-21 15:58 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-24 4:34 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-24 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-13 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-13 16:01 ` Doug Smythies
2025-01-13 12:58 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/fair: Fix update_cfs_group() vs DELAY_DEQUEUE tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-12 19:59 ` [REGRESSION] Re: [PATCH 00/24] Complete EEVDF Doug Smythies
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2024-07-27 10:27 Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-28 10:32 ` [REGRESSION] " Marcel Ziswiler
2024-11-28 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-28 11:37 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-11-29 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-02 18:46 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-12-09 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-10 16:05 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-12-10 16:13 ` Steven Rostedt
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